Boulder AR-15 Ban

[johngraves2]

Reading through the text of the third reading seems like it is very similar to Denver's laws. Looks like pistols can have 15 or fewer rounds, but centerfire can have only have 10 or less. Other exceptions for tube and rimfire. I am no lawyer though so just my interpretation.

It is a little confusing though, can a non-Boulder resident drive through Boulder with an AR in their car and in a case without any issues, or is that now illegal?

[johngraves2]

5-8-10. – Possession and Sale of Illegal Weapons.
(a) No person shall knowingly possess or sell or otherwise transfer an illegal weapon.
(b) The defendant's knowledge that the weapon was illegal is not an aspect of knowledge
required for violation of this section.
(c) Nothing in this section shall be construed to forbid any person:
(1) Holding a Federal Firearms License issued by the United States Government
from possession of any firearm authorized pursuant to such license;
(2) From possessing a weapon for which the United States Government has issued
a stamp or permit pursuant to the National Firearms Act;
(3) From possessing a handgun magazine so long as the possession of the handgun
and magazine are in compliance with state law; or
(4) Selling an illegal weapon to a person identified in Section 5-8-25, “Exemptions
from this Chapter,” B.R.C. 1981.
(d) Nothing in this section shall be deemed to apply to any firearm that has been modified
either to render it permanently inoperable or to permanently make it not an assault
weapon.
(e) Nothing in this section shall be deemed to restrict a person's ability to travel with a
weapon in a private automobile or other private means of conveyance for hunting or
for lawful protection of a person's or another's person or property while traveling into,
though, or within, the City of Boulder, regardless of the number of times the person
stops in the City of Boulder.

Part e, Does this mean any weapon?

[def90]

Reading through the text of the third reading seems like it is very similar to Denver's laws. Looks like pistols can have 15 or fewer rounds, but centerfire can have only have 10 or less. Other exceptions for tube and rimfire. I am no lawyer though so just my interpretation.

It is a little confusing though, can a non-Boulder resident drive through Boulder with an AR in their car and in a case without any issues, or is that now illegal?

The laws only apply to Boulder residents so feel free to drive here and shoot up a bunch of people, it's all good as long as someone from Boulder doesn't do it.

[Will1776]

The laws only apply to Boulder residents so feel free to drive here and shoot up a bunch of people, it's all good as long as someone from Boulder doesn't do it.

I guess those in Boulder can throw on the thorsden stock and make their ASSAULT rifles non-scary and unable to shoot thirty caliber magazine clips in half a second.

On another note, did the 21 age limit to possess any firearm pass as well? Any grandfathering?

[def90]

I guess those in Boulder can throw on the thorsden stock and make their ASSAULT rifles non-scary and unable to shoot thirty caliber magazine clips in half a second.

On another note, did the 21 age limit to possess any firearm pass as well? Any grandfathering?

I’m assuming the 21 age limit is still there. Grandfathering via certificate. No exceptions for anyone but law enforcement and military while on duty and federal concealed carry permits. Though I would assume that if it came down to it you could get a copy of you 4473 to prove you owned something down the road.. I’m not complying and I don’t know anyone else that is going to either. At least cops are bound by this law on their personal firearms. No exceptions for FFL holders either so theoretically the couple local gunshots would not be able to possess any of these firearms either.

I haven’t heard of any filed lawsuits yet but there has to be a few lawyers out there licking their lips.

[Will1776]

I’m assuming the 21 age limit is still there. Grandfathering via certificate. No exceptions for anyone but law enforcement and military while on duty and federal concealed carry permits. Though I would assume that if it came down to it you could get a copy of you 4473 to prove you owned something down the road.. I’m not complying and I don’t know anyone else that is going to either. At least cops are bound by this law on their personal firearms.

Good. People in Boulder need to stand up to this tyranny before it gets worse

[.455_Hunter]

I haven’t heard of any filed lawsuits yet but there has to be a few lawyers out there licking their lips.

From the BRC President this evening...

The Boulder Rifle Club, along with others, is filing suit against the city et al. We assert that by their actions they have infringed on not only the 2nd, but also the 5th and 14th Amendments to the United States Constitution and violated other federal and state laws.

[kidicarus13]

No exceptions for FFL holders either so theoretically the couple local gunshots would not be able to possess any of these firearms either.

(c) Nothing in this section shall be construed to forbid any person:

(1) Holding a Federal Firearms License issued by the United States Government

from possession of any firearm authorized pursuant to such license;

[def90]

(c) Nothing in this section shall be construed to forbid any person:

(1) Holding a Federal Firearms License issued by the United States Government

from possession of any firearm authorized pursuant to such license;

Which version is that from? I was at the second reading and they removed FFL exemption.

[johngraves2]

Which version is that from? I was at the second reading and they removed FFL exemption.

That's the way it is written in the third reading on that link you posted before. The text starts on like 230 or something in that PDF.

Based on comments by council members I have read they plan on passing more amendments to it going forward cause they know it is not well written and is confusing. That should be illegal regardless of the topic. Pass something that is bad just to pass something and then come back later and change it???

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