Texas High School Shooting

[cstone]

...there would be a screening of the students.

Like TSA! That would be awesome to have kids searched by more government employees. Great conditioning for their future roles as drones of the state.

Government School districts should be required to provide a million dollar settlement to any student injured in a school. I'm thinking this would bring some small measure of accountability to taking their responsibility seriously. I would imagine some superintendents might actually lose their six figure jobs after a school shooting.

[GilpinGuy]

Why don't they

- put armed vets to work running security?
- once the morning bell rings, all doors go on electronic lockdown and can't be opened by anyone except authorized personnel from inside the building. You can exit (for emergency purposes) but can't enter.
- all access after the bell goes through a checkpoint room which is bulletproof and has steel doors. This is the only point of entry.
- Visitors are screened by the vets for weapons. Must show valid id and have a valid purpose AND must be escorted to their destination and escorted out from the destination out of the building. Vets standby while the visitor conducts their business.
- no more trenchcoats or longcoats allowed.
- no heavy coats out of season.
- all textbooks are now issued as digital .pdf's. (Not only is it better for the environment, saves trees, waste, etc, you can't lose them, and if it gets deleted you login into your school acct and re-download it.)
- no more backpacks and bags are needed or allowed. You carry a notebook or 3 ring binder with notebook paper in it, 2 pens and pencils and your smartphone, laptop, tablet or kindle for your pdf classbooks and nothing else is allowed. If you can't carry it, you don't need it.
-Everything else is supplied by the school/teachers for in class projects.




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Sounds like a prison to me. And I know several vets who I consider complete douchebags. Vets come in all shapes and sizes. You seem to think they're magical in some way.

[CS1983]

Vets, like the military they came from, are a microcosm of society, from which they originally came before they went into the military. Some suck, some are average, and some are the tip of the spear no matter what they do. She seems to be trying to solve some fictitious unemployed-vet problem that I would wager is made up from thin air, or otherwise imagined. I don't know anyone I served with who has a problem with employment, especially if they weren't a moron and actually used their educational benefits. Some have gone into IT, one into the oil fields, some have gone on to grad school (and thus aren't currently working due to school), some are in jobs that require being armed and pursued that line of work on purpose (PMC SDM and State Dept. security type of work). All with whom I've kept up are employed as they want to be. Most vets I've known who have consistent employment problems are not the type you want guarding a school. They're either shitbags or have some things with which they need to deal.

The entire point of veteran benefits is to reintegrate a person into society such that they can take the skills they learned and apply them as civilians. It's not meant to be an appetizer to handouts and woe-is-you-poor-vet special treatment.

Special treatment should be reserved for folks who for one reason or another have a hard go of things beyond the norm, not merely the reality of life itself being hard. In general, such folks are unsuitable for such work. Make no mistake: there's a reason they have had a bad go, be it a mental/emotional issue, drugs, alcohol, or some combo. Between educational bennies and various agencies/departments suffering for bodies, I cannot imagine that anyone suitable for such a security position, desiring of such a position, and capable of meeting standards has any issue finding such work.

I wouldn't want some SPC who was a water purification doofus to have such a job. I'd want Infantry, MPs, Scouts, Forward Observers, etc. Guys who have a background suitable to such work. In my experience, such people already have such jobs or no longer want to work in that field. I'd surmise the remaining viable talent pool is quite low.

[cstone]

Here is an interesting interview with a former School Resource Officer talking about what they do to your kids while they are being "educated" in a government school. Yup, sounds much more like a jail than an educational institution.

[Irving]

Seems like guarding a school is like being a politician. Those who want to do it are probably the last person I'd want around my kids; and for those who'd be great at it, it's probably the last thing they'd ever want to do.

[Irving]

You're WAY too attached to this Cluster-B thing, like liberals are way too attached to guns. Yes they exist, yes they have problems, but they are not the only cause of societies ills. Just like heavy metal and video games aren't. I think you're fooling yourself when you assume that non Cluster B people won't also commit tragedies. Most of the Nazis weren't Cluster-B.

Seeking attention is a thing that most kids do growing up to one extent or another; didn't mean they are a psychopath.

[CoGirl303]

Or... do away with public schools, save a bunch of tax money, and let private schools flourish or die based on their merit.

I have no problem with this, but you and I both know the govt isnt going to get out the education business. Too much money involved and they get to brainwash the little chilluns and program them the way they want.

Like TSA! That would be awesome to have kids searched by more government employees. Great conditioning for their future roles as drones of the state.

Government School districts should be required to provide a million dollar settlement to any student injured in a school. I'm thinking this would bring some small measure of accountability to taking their responsibility seriously. I would imagine some superintendents might actually lose their six figure jobs after a school shooting.

I was just pondering earlier why none of these parents whose kids died in a mass shooting had ever filed a wrongful death lawsuit against a school or school district?

These kids are "mandated by government" to attend school (public, private or homeschooled)...then the govt should be required to provide adequate security for the children.

None of these damn superintendents deserves a 6 figure salary.



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[Irving]

I agree with the SS having a higher percentage of mentally ill people, and there are plenty of reports of behavior that point to so. My point about attention seeking was that you used an example of a kid seeking attention as a clear indication of Cluster-B. I'm having a bit of trouble rectifying how people who don't care about people, care about how people feel about them though. If you're incapable of having feelings of love or adoration, how can you seek those feelings from others?

*Note: I'm not writing off your example because you were there, and I know things are more clear in person. We've all encountered people with..."issues" that you can clearly pick-up on, but may have difficulty in explaining to another that wasn't there. To me there is a line between seeking attention, and seeking attention by faking an injury and making people beg for some reaction.

[Irving]

Why aren't there more mass shootings at offices? All the same conditions and cliques of high school exist in corporate settings as well. What is the difference?

[TFOGGER]

Why aren't there more mass shootings at offices? All the same conditions and cliques of high school exist in corporate settings as well. What is the difference?

No youthful hormones, and most people that can hold down an office job are capable of at least some self restraint.