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    Joe_K
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scanker19 View Post
    Why? Why? Becuase several of those aren?t even related to voting other than they were included in a discussion about voting. I think people that put pineapple on pizza shouldn?t be allowed to vote. See I can do it too. The rest are at best opinion based and subjective, and at worst two steps away from saying women and blacks wouldn?t be able to vote becuase, reasons.....?

    I mean that?s a list of people you don?t like, that you don?t want voting. And nothing more. I?m sure you?ll have your reason and justifications as to why you don?t want them to, but I can replace any of them with the words women, the blacks, Mexicans, people under 5foot, and Dallas cowboys fans, and the ?argument? (and I?m really using that word loosely) would still quote hold up.

    Let?s keep in mind these rights as we call them aren?t granted by the government, or trump or Hillary or JoeK. They are and inherent part of being a human, granted by god or whatever you believe in, and PROTECTED by the constitution from people who would wish to strip those away. The best part about rights is you don?t have to agree with them. You don?t have to like a meth head (which by the way is a status offense and that?s not a crime in America) voting, but you damn well better be glad he can. It could be you next on the voting chopping block.
    Preventing drug addicted,mentally unstable, criminal dead beat Dad?s doesn?t really seem quite the same as preventing a Woman or a person of a slightly darker complexion than myself from voting.

    I?m in favor of a Constitutional Republic, NOT a Democracy. What form of government are you in favor of? What we currently have? How?s that working out for us?

    It was a Constitutional Amendment that allowed the right to vote for those under 21, it was/is not a God given birthright like the right to self defense. Why not just let Citizens of other countries vote in our nations elections? Why not 11 year olds? Felons? Committed mental patients?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe_K View Post
    Preventing drug addicted,mentally unstable, criminal dead beat Dad?s doesn?t really seem quite the same as preventing a Woman or a person of a slightly darker complexion than myself from voting.

    I?m in favor of a Constitutional Republic, NOT a Democracy. What form of government are you in favor of? What we currently have? How?s that working out for us?

    It was a Constitutional Amendment that allowed the right to vote for those under 21, it was/is not a God given birthright like the right to self defense. Why not just let Citizens of other countries vote in our nations elections? Why not 11 year olds? Felons? Committed mental patients?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe_K View Post
    Preventing drug addicted,mentally unstable, criminal dead beat Dad?s doesn?t really seem quite the same as preventing a Woman or a person of a slightly darker complexion than myself from voting.

    But's through the modern lens. One of the reasons we didn't want slaves voting is how could a person of color make a good decision (using the lens of the past) It's just as arbitrary. Someone saying they shouldn't vote because...... Just because you're on drugs doesn't mean that you make all bad choice. Just because you don't raise kids doesn't mean you don't have a say in your civic process.

    I?m in favor of a Constitutional Republic, NOT a Democracy. What form of government are you in favor of? What we currently have? How?s that working out for us?
    I think it is working fine. Could it be honed up a bit sure. Make states have an electoral college type of system so you avoid the problem NM has now where 29 out of 33 counties don't want something but they're still getting it. Or what Colorado is doing in this thread. It works fine. Trump was elected and didn't win the popular vote right?

    It was a Constitutional Amendment that allowed the right to vote for those under 21, it was/is not a God given birthright like the right to self defense. Why not just let Citizens of other countries vote in our nations elections? Why not 11 year olds? Felons? Committed mental patients?
    Again amendments don't allow and damn thing, they protect it since it wasn't specifically enumerated in the constitution. The 2nd amendment doesn't allow a damn thing. It disallows the government from restricting that right.
    Well the argument could be made that the constitution applies to the people of the united states. We the People and such not WE the citizens... But it's a dumb argument and should be citizens. I'm in favor of felons voting. Why not? Is their time not served? I think those in violation of laws have the most say in the making of those laws. Hell I'm in favor of restoring gun rights to most non-violent felons too. You were military right? So in NM right now, If i were military, and i just got back from deployment from defending the nation, I could not give my 20 year old battle buddy a beer and it not be a felony. Some felonies are stupid.
    As much as it pains me to say, I do support mental patients voting. I mean just because they're liberal doesn't mean they shouldn't get to vote to right?



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