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    Anyway, we're struggling so hard to even process what is happening that I had to go and click on the original article I posted for updates of what even happened.
    Sounds like around 1am a guy was denied entry to a bar so he went and got a gun and stayed shooting people outside. Sounds like he tried to get into the bar but was stopped at the door, gun taken from him, and shot. I don't know the specifics but it seems like that's what people are reporting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OxArt View Post
    An observation as well: Per capita, the rates of mass casualty incidents* in Asian countries is substantially lower than our own. .
    Perhaps interestingly, Asian-Americans have lower violence rates than the rest of America, but on demographic basis they are over-represented in mass shootings.

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    I think the point, if there is any, is:

    A) Stop trying to find all the reasons you can rely on to believe what you innately agree with.

    B) Instead, consider the reasons, facts, and perspectives about why you shouldn't believe what you innately agree with.

    Here, it seems like the innate thought would stray away from conspiracies, but that's not how the human mind works. You don't like the idea that people just up and murder people just like you, for no reason, and no warning. Even if you know it's true.

    But you DO LIKE THE IDEA OF IT DEMONIZING THE OTHER GUYS.

    Until people get good at the latter (B); they'll always been manipulated sheep, just of a different color than THE OTHER GUYS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rucker61 View Post
    Perhaps interestingly, Asian-Americans have lower violence rates than the rest of America, but on demographic basis they are over-represented in mass shootings.

    https://www.motherjones.com/politics...nes-full-data/
    7 out of 113 in that? Asians are 5.6% of the population, that data set shows they are involved in 6.1% of the USA* based events in that list. On such a low set, I don't think the half a percent is of significance, but if it ever appeared in a larger set it would be of sociological interest.
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    Just read an unconfirmed report that a 223 AK was used in Ohio.

    Conspiracy?
    Maybe, maybe not.

    But I do feel that there is a certain faction of society that will stop at nothing to attain control and further their agenda.
    I put nothing beyond them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OxArt View Post
    The ratio of both sides being correct is about 0%, thus far. And no, even on the national level, we don't keep secrets terribly well. Some individuals do. Some don't.
    0%? Are you sure about that?


    Quote Originally Posted by OxArt View Post
    Example A: Congress. Most of the ones that do leak it obviously don't run to the press, they share something with someone close to them. It's still a leak.
    Your view on leaks not coming directly from politicians seems to be very naive.

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...s-press-214367


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    The weird is off the charts
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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    Actually i'll disagree with this. You can get an antifa mob within an hours time . Between tweets, and other social media, it happens when the opposing team is waiting for the call. IMO it's pre-planned and takes off from there. Look at these spontaneous anti trump protest after the election. Full color posters, pink hats etc. There's an overt attempt to unseat the administration as well as push as tough a gun confiscation as possible. before the 2020 election


    Hell the antifa crowd is ready to rock in Tx as we type. They've issued a call to action nationwide. Under the banner of Stop Racism and Facisim.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/texas-lt-...080400708.html
    MoveOn and WomansMarch started laying the groundwork before the election. I've had a falling out with my associates connected to these organizations but I have a strong suspicion these and similarly minded organizations have only ramped up their rhetoric since January 2017. Think "prayer chains" on social media.

    Quote Originally Posted by OxArt View Post
    It's ironic that almost every mass killer thinks they are "good" in their minds eye. Each side of a war generally thinks they are the "good" guys.

    Maybe "Good" and "Evil" are just concepts, hmm?

    Personality disorders are real.
    Empathy is real.
    Kindness is real.
    Murder is real.

    "Good" and "Evil" are not "real", they are mere concepts in the eye of the individual beholder and the judge; to which segments of society often roughly agree on what constitutes "good" and "bad".
    There are a lot of people out there in very dark places. They know they are in dark places. They have largely given up on trying to find a way out of these places and have come to embrace the darkness.

    Quote Originally Posted by BPTactical View Post
    Just read an unconfirmed report that a 223 AK was used in Ohio.

    Conspiracy?
    Maybe, maybe not.

    But I do feel that there is a certain faction of society that will stop at nothing to attain control and further their agenda.
    I put nothing beyond them.
    At this point in time I don't think a "conspiracy" in the terms we think of is required. There are enough unhinged people out there that with just the right triggering by different social media groups somebody will go and do something very bad. These people are isolated and feel their only connection with others is through Facebook, Instagram, etc. As for the "certain faction of society" mentioned above, they don't care how many people get hurt or on "who's side" they are.

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    See the above reply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrAK View Post
    I?m old enough to remember Operation Fast and Furious. I think a lot of us knew what was up with that story as soon as it broke, or at least our guts did. That story was widely reported on, and still was swept under the rug. You?d have a hard time convincing me that some of the most public individuals in this country didn?t engage in a conspiracy to enact gun control by creating a problem of gun violence to be publicized and politicized.

    That's a very good point!


    It isn't all that difficult to see all the deliberate anti-American propaganda that is being used to whip up all the constant hysteria and the tensions they are manufacturing with their propaganda through the main streram media, social media, and their entertainment.

    The left and some of their leaders have been consistently calling for their useful iditos to go out and engauge in acts violence against normal people for a while now. Some of them are at it on an almost daily basis incase y'all haven't noticed.

    Just a conspiracy theory my a$$...

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