Ohio shooting

[FoxtArt]

conspiracy theory (noun) Merriam
:a theory that explains an event or set of circumstances as the result of a secret plot by usually powerful conspirators
Oxford
:"the theory that an event or phenomenon occurs as a result of a conspiracy between interested parties; spec. a belief that some covert but influential agency (typically political in motivation and oppressive in intent) is responsible for an unexplained event"

Allegations that each side are openly fomenting hate towards each other which results in violence isn't a conspiracy theory.

It's partly, and even possibly largely a result of certain nation states who really like investing a lot of assets in our "free press" and elsewhere to manipulate both sides towards hate; it's an insanely cheap form of asymmetric warfare that we can't retaliate, because all of their press is state controlled under an iron fist. And there's little doubt it has some influence on some fraction of these shootings, such as the El Paso one if the "manifesto" is even true.

So, it's not just a LIBERAL problem. The more we let ourselves be conditioned to absolutely vilify and hate "the other guys".... the more we are mere sheep of a different color. Letting Russia and China herd us around.

[Eric P]

Dude murdered his sister

https://kdvr.com/2019/08/04/ohio-sho...ong-9-victims/

Could be the motive. Sis pissed you off...

[Firehaus]

... such as the El Paso one if the "manifesto" is even true.

Are you alluding that it might be part of a conspiracy?



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[eddiememphis]

https://drudgereport.com/flashtx.htm

El Paso nutbag's manifesto

[FoxtArt]

Are you alluding that it might be part of a conspiracy?

[Irving]

I wish that manifesto was fake.

[eddiememphis]

"My opinions on automation, immigration, and the rest
predate Trump and his campaign for president. I put
ting this here because some people will blame the
President or certain presidential candidates for the attack. This is not the case. I know that the media
will probably call me a white supremacist anyway and blame Trump’s rhetoric. The media is infamous
for fake news. Their reaction to this attack will likely just confirm that."

He was spot on with this point.

However, the boy's got more loose screws than a hardware store.

[Skip]

Snips throughout

Every generation pulls at the mores of the earlier. I doubt there hasn't been a time in the last two thousand years that the status quo hasn't been under attack by the equivalent of "liberals". I also don't elevate Chinese culture, beyond our own, but awareness beyond our border helps to better understand what's wrong, and it's not just mere liberals. I think even down to the foundation way we do early learning is highly flawed. The way we teach children is screwed from the inset, based on ancient crap logic. [Don't do bad things, cause the god/santa/elf/NSA is watching you!] as opposed to developing, you know, empathy. And I'm not attacking religion there, it can coexist with an empathy strategy, but almost nobody teaches it in that fashion. It's rather bizarre that we teach children here not to be bad because they might get caught. When they test it, and find out they don't get caught, well... there goes that strategy.

How many Americans even know what critical actions in early child development form empathy? I'm pretty sure less than 1%.

The 1960s-early 70s were profoundly different for America and correctly called a "revolution." It wasn't just young people testing the waters but for the first time a generation in complete rebellion. The decent Boomers here can easily recall more than I can explain. It was a dark time for this country and the social damage irrepable. It wasn't until decent hard working Boomers established themselves in the 80s that we began to recover, but only by necessity (we could no longer afford Lib politics).

And for the first time, narcissists could openly hate the country and work to destroy it from the inside. Previously such things would have been dealt with swiftly. This counter-culture got us abortion, STDs, Iran/ME crisis, critical race theory, and environmentalism. It provided the genesis for collectivist thought and so many modern collectivists still pull from that period.

Not even the Confederacy sought to do what American Libs tried to do in the 70s.

Who "educated" Millennials and Zers? You think they educated children to know right from wrong or demoralized them and introduced moral relativism? And since moral absolutes were eliminated, how did they deal with exceptional behavior? These can't be moral failures or "the system" is at fault, so there had to be something medically wrong with humans; SSRIs to the rescue!

Xers got a mix of this in ed and that's why many of us just want to be left alone. We don't want to control others and we don't want mandated failure. This was my generation's mistake--believing we could see what was happening, think for ourselves, and just be left alone. We're to blame here too.

It's also easy to get nostalgic and think things were better in the past, but we still had mass killings and much of the underlying issues then (they just didn't guarantee as much media infamy, so the occurrence was slightly less often, and fewer shitheads had the idea). Things weren't better in the "good ol days" nor have they ever been, it's just different. Every generation waxes and wanes with new problems.

The thing that gives gun control advocates credibility is that they have been able to cherry-pick one specific kind of "gun violence" (mass shootings) while keeping larger facts about guns hidden from the public.

Overall, gun violence has been decreasing. And it hasn't been safer to be an American in my lifetime. High schoolers haven't been safer since 1994.

That focus on mass shootings shows a significant increase in frequency and number of causalities. We can't ignore this. Yeah, of course it happened but not like today. Columbine (again, transition from Xers to Millennials) opened the floodgates and it's no coincidence that many killers cite Columbine as part of their motivation.

So no, we didn't have these kinds/frequency of mass killings/shootings until a generation raised by Boomers came of age.








Were there other problems in the past? Sure. They didn't manifest this way.

Even now there are people struggling with mental health issues, depression, etc... I've had friends/family with issues. Why aren't all of them picking up guns and murdering people? What makes people different?

Let's talk about racism... Is anyone seriously suggesting that racism hasn't existed in the US in the past? Why didn't the racists of the past turn into mass shooters?

Same on the "violent video games" angle..... Millions of kids have and will play violent first-person shooter games. Why aren't they are shooting up a Walmart?

"Incels?" Okay, why aren't they all turning into white supremacists looking for brown people to murder?

It comes down to resistance against Progressivism and maintaining objective morality. I think a lot of that comes from church/religion but it doesn't necessarily have to given good parenting.

[Zundfolge]

I wish that manifesto was fake.

Yeah, its beginning to look like the El Paso manifesto its real.

That said, the Ohio shooter is a leftist and atheist that hated Trump so the media will clearly state he's a white supremacist, trump supporting NRA member too. Its not like they're going to tell the truth if a lie will fit their agenda better.

https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/connor-betts/

[DavieD55]

How convenient. Perfect timing.

FBI: Conspiracy Theories Are Now A Domestic Terrorism Threat

By Tyler Durden 8/1/2019 - 18:15



Do you believe in an elite cabal of untouchable oligarchs guiding the course of history via false flags, perpetual war, and covertly funded militant groups? Do you share these beliefs online?

You might just be engaging in domestic terrorism according to the FBI.
A May 30 intelligence bulletin posted by the bureau's Phoenix field office describes "conspiracy theory-driven domestic extremists" as a growing threat, reports Yahoo News.


Does the Trump-Russia conspiracy theory peddled by leading Democrats and amplified by the MSM for over two straight years count?
Apparently not, as the document singles out QAnon - "a shadowy network that believes in a deep state conspiracy against President Trump, and Pizzagate, the theory that a pedophile ring including Clinton associates was being run out of the basement of a Washington, D.C., pizza restaurant (which didn?t actually have a basement)," according to the report.
(Except they do according to a quote from the owner, James Alefantis, in this 2015 Metro Weekly article)
The report points to the case of Edgar Maddison Welch, who opened fire in the Comet Ping Pong pizza restaurant at the center of Pizzagate. Welch, who worked for his father's film company - "Forever Young Productions" - walked through the door with an AR-15, "shot off the lock to an inside door, sending a bullet into a computer tower," and told authorities he was there to 'rescue children' (by shooting at a door they might be behind) according to the Washington Post.


"The FBI assesses these conspiracy theories very likely will emerge, spread, and evolve in the modern information marketplace, occasionally driving both groups and individual extremists to carry out criminal or violent acts," reads the FBI document, which adds that conspiracy theory-driven extremism is likely to increase during the 2020 presidential election cycle.

The FBI said another factor driving the intensity of this threat is ?the uncovering of real conspiracies or cover-ups involving illegal, harmful, or unconstitutional activities by government officials or leading political figures.? The FBI does not specify which political leaders or which cover-ups it was referring to.
President Trump is mentioned by name briefly in the latest FBI document, which notes that the origins of QAnon is the conspiratorial belief that ?Q,? allegedly a government official, ?posts classified information online to reveal a covert effort, led by President Trump, to dismantle a conspiracy involving ?deep state? actors and global elites allegedly engaged in an international child sex trafficking ring.? -Yahoo News

Nevermind that 'global elite' hobnobber Jeffrey Epstein is currently sitting in a jail cell, accused of literal child sex trafficking, and may have been the subject of an attempted hit last week.




Full Article From ZeroHedge

Not trying to hijack the OP just adding another angle