At least 5 dead in Midland-Odessa shootings

[eddiememphis]

The problem isn't people, it's the guns.

https://www.vox.com/2015/10/3/944441...ngs-us-america

[Gman]

Vox quoting from Mother Jones and the usual suspects. More pap for the left.

If guns were never needed and never existed, they wouldn't be a problem. Well, that fairy wonderland doesn't exist.

[Zundfolge]

This wasn't a "mass shooting" it was a fleeing felon shooting it out with police ... I don't think for a moment he was "targeting innocent people" he was shooting at the cops and missing.

Clearly more gun control will magically make all crime cease and probably reverse global warming as well

[Irving]

This wasn't a "mass shooting" it was a fleeing felon shooting it out with police ... I don't think for a moment he was "targeting innocent people" he was shooting at the cops and missing.

Clearly more gun control will magically make all crime cease and probably reverse global warming as well

What are you talking about? Why would people have had to call in to the police to report him if he was already shooting at the police. Not even New York cops shoot 26 people on accident.

[Gman]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/sh...d-7/ar-AAGEueU

ODESSA, Tex. — The 36-year-old man who terrorized two West Texas towns with an assault-style rifle Saturday had been fired from his trucking job a few hours before he led the authorities on a chaotic high-speed chase that ended with his death and the deaths of seven others.

Along a 15-mile stretch between the sister cities of Midland and Odessa, the aftermath of the gunman’s rampage — in which he indiscriminately fired on motorists and police officers with an AR-15-style rifle while driving — clashed with the typically serene and dusty rural landscape of the region.

On Sunday, the authorities continued to collect evidence from more than 15 crime scenes, scattered along highways, car dealerships and shopping malls, marked by police tape, bullet-riddled cars and a wrecked postal van the gunman had hijacked.

[theGinsue]

The problem isn't people, it's the guns.

https://www.vox.com/2015/10/3/944441...ngs-us-america

What a naive and senseless article. The writer says "More guns means more gun deaths. Period." This thought process plays out with the graphs and stats a repetitive premise that only in America, with more guns than people, there are more deaths by guns than anyplace else. Isn't this akin to saying "In countries where most citizens own cars there are more accidents and deaths from cars than in the countries that have banned civilian automobile ownership"? To that point, more people die from auto accidents/suicides than by firearms but no one (except AOC) is clamoring to remove peoples cars.

We all know that the problem most certainly IS NOT guns, but the people who choose to use them irresponsibly and maliciously. There will always be these type of people in the world and in our communities. The UK, after banning private firearm ownership has been seeing a huge uptick of attacks by people using knives; so much so that now knives are the item their government is looking to ban - and IS making the purchasing of knives increasingly difficult. People with ill intent will use whatever tool they can acquire to accomplish their goal. Period.

I grow weary of the ignorant pushing these anti-gun commentaries and legislation. I definitely fear living in a world where only the government has firearms.

[Irving]

If less people die in the increased knife attacks, then it's a moot point. Not trying to influence the debate beyond solid debate points.

[OtterbatHellcat]

You're right about that, T.

[FoxtArt]

Approach from a different angle. One of sarcastic agreement. The fun one I created (and now used a lot) is "Antarctica had no firearm fatalities and no vehicular accident fatalities in 2018! The best solution is to adopt Antarctica's politics"

Idk if it's true stat, probably is. I've made that point a lot and they don't know how to handle it. Point is, they can't tell if your serious, and it's so far out there. Nobody even knows what Antarctic politics are. Even a flaming lib knows "uh they don't have car accidents because they aren't driving cars" and suddenly their own stat argument about UK or (insert country) seems.... weak even to them. So they don't know "how" to come up with a retort to that.

[Gman]

Crime > Violent crime > Murder rate per million people: Countries Compared

There's that hell-hole of a country, the United States, at #99. I'm sure those stats include suicide. Would be interesting with the suicide numbers separated.