Gonna be a mess - got an excuse to agitate

[00tec]

Wow... There are some pretty specific rulings in that. It's almost like the judge wants to rewrite the DPD policy manual.

Well, when DPD was filmed pepper balling passing cars for fun, it's not a good look.

[Bailey Guns]

Well, when DPD was filmed pepper balling passing cars for fun, it's not a good look.

I understand that and I agree. Do you not see a problem with a judge rewriting a department policy manual from the bench? That is not a judge's job. That's part of the reason we're having some of the problems we're having today...judges legislating from the bench. That's basically what this judge is doing only in terms of police department policy instead of a law.

[Bailey Guns]

There is such a thing as taking something too far. Whether it's unreasonable force by police or burning and looting buildings in protest.

Frankly, I'd like to see police officers in Denver and other liberal shitholes come down with a serious case of blue flu. Bout a week off should cure a lot of this shit going around. Let the patients run the asylum for a while and see how that works out for those of you who think the police are out of control.

And for those of you who'll feel the need to say I'm just pro police, you're wrong. I'm pro good police...which is about 99.9% of them. I'm anti-bad cop. But I'm objective enough to realize there's a difference. And I'm not in favor of punishing the good cops for what a small minority of bad cops have done.

I'm also pro good protester. I'm anti-bad protester...aka looters and rioters.

Just like the protesters don't want to be lumped together with the looters and rioters, good cops don't want to be lumped together with the bad. Just like law-abiding gun owners don't want to be lumped together with the psychos who use guns to commit crimes. If you can't differentiate, you're part of the problem.

[GilpinGuy]

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And for those of you who'll feel the need to say I'm just pro police, you're wrong. I'm pro good police...which is about 99.9% of them. I'm anti-bad cop. But I'm objective enough to realize there's a difference. And I'm not in favor of punishing the good cops for what a small minority of bad cops have done.

I'm not calling you out or anything here, but in your years of LEO service, have you ever seen an officer do something untoward to the point that it would warrant it being reported to a supervisor or whatever? If so, did you do it?

I think "part" of the problem is police not policing themselves and calling out the bullshit excuse of "bad apples". Yes, assholes exist. Call them out and get them out of policing.

[Bailey Guns]

I'm not calling you out or anything here, but in your years of LEO service, have you ever seen an officer do something untoward to the point that it would warrant it being reported to a supervisor or whatever? If so, did you do it?

I think "part" of the problem is police not policing themselves and calling out the bullshit excuse of "bad apples". Yes, assholes exist. Call them out and get them out of policing.

Never. Worst thing I can recall is an officer on my team (I was the supervisor) lied to me about backing into a light pole and causing minor damage to a car. I had an occasion or two where a fellow officer pulled some bonehead stuff that put me in danger when dealing with people...but that was always handled between the two of us.

There were the lazy types that always had an excuse for not handling calls or finding excuses to divert from certain calls forcing someone to handle stuff in their district. Everyone knew who those guys were and usually avoided helping them. If a fellow officer was down 4 or 5 reports and got dispatched to another call, someone would always offer to take the call for them. The lazy guys would never get that type of consideration.

But nothing like unnecessary use of force.

I was sued by a kid for $17M. He fabricated a story about how I hit him in the head with my hand/flashlight/nightstick/gun (it was always a different item when it was shown his story didn't make sense). The family notified the FBI and they cleared me. Then it went to trial in federal district court and after a week long trial the jury found in my favor in a matter of minutes. It was obvious he was lying. Mom and dad were convicted felons and looking for money. Their attorney knew I didn't do it but he was getting paid so he didn't care.