Something big going on at King Soopers on Table Mesa in Boulder

[.455_Hunter]

Nominal order of events based on radio traffic...

https://www.9news.com/mobile/article...5-321dfc113326

[Bailey Guns]

First call dispatched at 2:32. Officers making entry into the store and reporting people down at 2:36. That's a maximum of four minutes from the time the call was aired until officers were on scene and making entry. That's a pretty incredible response in my opinion.

[BPTactical]

Radio feed, 4:40 in is the first call


https://garchives1.broadcastify.com/...5633-32030.mp3


Yeah, he nutted up.

[hollohas]

Yup. It doesn't get any better than that unless an officer is there when it starts.

LE response was fast and massive.

[Bailey Guns]

And from the limited radio traffic I've heard the dispatchers did an incredible job of passing information in a calm and professional manner. Nice work...

[.455_Hunter]

I would suspect that all civilian casualties occured in the period prior to LE engagement. RIP Officer Talley- the true citizens of the Boulder region honor your sacrifice.

I am sorry, I hate conspiracy theories, but the coincidences of the whole event are just too perfect. Spree shooting at a main grocery store in a politically connected progressive mecca just days after a judge invalidated their local AWB and during a time of intense national legislative and executive pressure on gun control.

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

I don’t think it’s conspiracies. I think it’s just the left always has in their back pocket I push on gun control. There’s stuff at the federal level, their stuff at the state level, there ended up being some at the local level here. The fact that the legislation never actually addresses or would’ve prevented what happened is often lost on both sides. Granted the AWB here is a bit different. The only real conspiracy angle is that the left never lets a horrible incident like this to lay there without being used to advance their cause.

[Martinjmpr]

I would suspect that all civilian casualties occured in the period prior to LE engagement. RIP Officer Talley- the true citizens of the Boulder region honor your sacrifice.

I read SOTI (somewhere on the internet) that most "mass shooting" events last less than 5 minutes before either LE responds or the shooter takes himself out. I think the VA Tech shooting was the rare exception where it lasted something like a half hour or an hour at multiple locations but that's uncommon.

My point being that unless you are physically there, by the time you "hear about" a mass shooting, the shooting is likely over.

IIRC the main "lesson" of Columbine, where the responding officers (following policies that were in effect at that time) waited for backup before going in, was to change that policy and now the policy is that the first officer on the scene goes in, regardless of whether he has backup, because every second that the shooter goes unchallenged is an opportunity for him to shoot more people.

[.455_Hunter]

I read SOTI (somewhere on the internet) that most "mass shooting" events last less than 5 minutes before either LE responds or the shooter takes himself out. I think the VA Tech shooting was the rare exception where it lasted something like a half hour or an hour at multiple locations but that's uncommon.

My point being that unless you are physically there, by the time you "hear about" a mass shooting, the shooting is likely over.

IIRC the main "lesson" of Columbine, where the responding officers (following policies that were in effect at that time) waited for backup before going in, was to change that policy and now the policy is that the first officer on the scene goes in, regardless of whether he has backup, because every second that the shooter goes unchallenged is an opportunity for him to shoot more people.

Agree 100%. The key recent times that has not happened have been in Florida- The Pulse nightclub and Stoneman Douglass HS come to mind, with active killing occuring inside while armed response was staying outside.

[def90]

Ahmad Alissa 21 years old just named as the shooter.