Ghost Gun Background Checks

[hollohas]

It could be 80%, 76%, 25%...doesn't matter. The only way any restriction would ever have teeth is if they banned home manufacture completely -> require ALL guns must have traceable serial #'s. Nothing less has any teeth at all.

There is no way to determine if a home made gun started at "80%" or somewhere less than that. Only thing an 80% restriction would slow would be online sales. But the people always find a way. Affordable desktop CNC mills like the Ghost Gunner will become commonplace. People will continue to make guns at home, one way or another. It's part of our culture now.

If they banned home manufacture completely with a felony if caught in possession of un-numbered gun...that would convince many to stop. (But these tyrants won't do that, at least not yet. Because it would literally require a gun confiscation or paid registration of all existing un-numbered guns. They're not quite ballsy enough to try that yet).

But an 80% ban? That's meaningless.

[Eric P]

100% sitting on top of a 0%

[hollohas]

Haha. Exactly.

[Great-Kazoo]

Any ideas how this could fall under an executive order? I imagine he could have his new BATFE chief issue new guidance that an 80% part is actually a firearm. That would shut it down until challenged in court.

What other law do you think they would try to use to base the exec order off of?

If falls under an EO due to the d's knowing IGF it was as any law he's done an EO on since taking office. It would not pass, or pass with harris being the tie breaker. The D's referendum on gun violence would sputter in congress, especially with a few D's from red states seats being on the line.

[Great-Kazoo]

It could be 80%, 76%, 25%...doesn't matter. The only way any restriction would ever have teeth is if they banned home manufacture completely -> require ALL guns must have traceable serial #'s. Nothing less has any teeth at all.

There is no way to determine if a home made gun started at "80%" or somewhere less than that. Only thing an 80% restriction would slow would be online sales. But the people always find a way. Affordable desktop CNC mills like the Ghost Gunner will become commonplace. People will continue to make guns at home, one way or another. It's part of our culture now.

If they banned home manufacture completely with a felony if caught in possession of un-numbered gun...that would convince many to stop. (But these tyrants won't do that, at least not yet. Because it would literally require a gun confiscation or paid registration of all existing un-numbered guns. They're not quite ballsy enough to try that yet).

But an 80% ban? That's meaningless.

If a person with the education of a kindergarten kid, sitting in a cave in Afghanistan . Can make a rifle over a fire that shoots fairly well out to say 6-800 yards. What's to stop anyone with a drill press from making a gun. Hell if a guy can make an AK receiver from a shovel. ANYTHING is possible with American Ingenuity .


My question is . Who exactly will the anti-law enforcement administration going to get. To go door - door in search of ANY firearm. made at home, or a legit mfg?
Sure there's some hard core anti-gun door kickers out there.
But what does one think their success rate will be. If they don't get past the second block, in a gun friendly neighborhood.

I forgot, I'm sure there's thousands who will turn in their 80% builds. And why not? There's forum members who have posted they'd turn their guns in.

Oh well ,Once again gun owners are our own worse enemy.

[Frac]

If falls under an EO due to the d's knowing IGF it was as any law he's done an EO on since taking office. It would not pass, or pass with harris being the tie breaker. The D's referendum on gun violence would sputter in congress, especially with a few D's from red states seats being on the line.

Sorry, my point is you can?t make new laws with an EO. So the EO needs to specify the way a current law will be enforced or it has to fall under a power already given to the executive branch. That?s what I?m asking about. It isn?t a gun, so what law will they be using as a basis for the EO?

[hollohas]

Sorry, my point is you can?t make new laws with an EO. So the EO needs to specify the way a current law will be enforced or it has to fall under a power already given to the executive branch. That?s what I?m asking about. It isn?t a gun, so what law will they be using as a basis for the EO?

The EO will be to order the ATF to reconsider their administrative policies and rulings. Laws mean nothing anymore. Everything is done administratively.

[ray1970]

This garbage almost made me buy a couple of parts.

Resisted the urge though.

[Circuits]

This garbage almost made me buy a couple of parts.

Resisted the urge though.

I won't buy parts. If I need them, I know how to make or scrounge them.

[Great-Kazoo]

Sorry, my point is you can?t make new laws with an EO. So the EO needs to specify the way a current law will be enforced or it has to fall under a power already given to the executive branch. That?s what I?m asking about. It isn?t a gun, so what law will they be using as a basis for the EO?

They're democrats & liberals.

They don't need any law. All they need is their emotions to justify, what ever they do.


What's their mantra?


Never let the truth get in the way, of your emotions.