Islam Perversion My Butt!

[BigBear]

Wow, talk about straw-manning an argument. Byte never suggested anything of the sort.

"Here let me make up some ridiculous examples that I claim logically follow from what you've said."

Ditto, Byte's a good guy. We can't all agree on everything. Don't make ASSumptions.

[jim02]

I'll play!!!

!!!WE HAEVE A WINNER!!!
As if I answered the questions myself.

[Byte Stryke]

And just on a side note, I believe I have gone on record with the A Bomb thing.
and just so its clear.


They started it, we finished it. We owe them nothing.

[jim02]

I Dont know you but you are making a hell off allot of assumptions on my part and putting a shitload of words in my mouth. Ive said nothing of the sort.

and the word is "ACTUALLY" and "Committed" we call it spell-check
You don't owe me shit.
I'm Not speaking for others.

I draw the conclusion from the comments, I dont like making assumptions and thats why I added the survey so I will know where you stand and I wont have to make any assumptions.

Friendly conversation please if you dont mind.
spell check huh, they make one of those

[Byte Stryke]

I draw the conclusion from the comments, I dont like making assumptions and thats why I added the survey so I will know where you stand and I wont have to make any assumptions.

Friendly conversation please if you dont mind.
spell check huh, they make one of those

your "Survey" was dripping with accusation and insinuation. Judging by the response I was not the only one that thought so.

assumption
Noun
1. a statement that is assumed to be true and from which a conclusion can be drawn; "on the assumption that he has been injured we can infer that he will not to play"
(synonym) premise, premiss
(hypernym) postulate, posit
(hyponym) major premise, major premiss
(derivation) assume, presume, take for granted
2. a hypothesis that is taken for granted; "any society is built upon certain assumptions"
(synonym) supposition, supposal
(hypernym) hypothesis, possibility, theory
(hyponym) conclusion
(derivation) assume, presume, take for granted
3. the act of taking possession of or power over something; "his assumption of office coincided with the trouble in Cuba"; "the Nazi assumption of power in 1934"; "he acquired all the company's assets for ten million dollars and the assumption of the company's debts"
(synonym) laying claim
(hypernym) acquisition
(derivation) assume, adopt, take on, take over
4. audacious (even arrogant) behavior that you have no right to; "he despised them for their presumptuousness"
(synonym) presumption, presumptuousness, effrontery
(hypernym) audacity, audaciousness
(hyponym) uppityness, uppishness
5. the act of assuming or taking for granted; "your assumption that I would agree was unwarranted"
(hypernym) act, human action, human activity
(hyponym) position
(derivation) assume, presume, take for granted

in case you were wondering

[jake]

yes i mentioned britain, the numbers of people who actually belong to a group are irrelevant, the fact is they are becoming empowered and believe they have rights that are above the law of the land making them a danger to our freedoms. to dismiss them out of hand is to be naive to a fault.

Of course it's relevant. Your angle seemed to be "look what happens if we get all pc and wishy-washy" so the fact that a government that a lot of you would consider to be hard-core Stalinists because they're left of centre actually took the decidedly un-PC and anti First Amendment step of saying "this organization is now illegal and if you're a member, you're a criminal" renders your point moot.

If you were trying to demonstrate how Britain is slowly turning into an Islamic state because they're too soft on Muslims, you couldn't have chosen a worse example than an organization that hardly anyone was a member of, that did absolutely nothing other than release a few statements designed to garner attention, that everyone spoke out against (including other Muslims) and that was banned by the government.

[jake]

And just on a side note, I believe I have gone on record with the A Bomb thing.
and just so its clear.


They started it, we finished it. We owe them nothing.

It's like Elhuero pointed out earlier in the thread. (Some) Liberals use the red-herring that if you're against the 'Ground Zero Mosque' you're a bigot as a way of controlling the conversation.

Similarly, some people try and control other conversations by suggesting that if your opinion doesn't correspond with theirs, you're anti-Semitic, anti-American, anti-Religious, anti-A-Bomb, pro-illegal immigrant, pro-reparations, pro-Sharia law, etc etc ad nauseum.

For some people everything is black and white. All Muslims are evil, all liberals are anti-gun, and all percentages they pull out of their asses are completely accurate.

[jim02]

your "Survey" was dripping with accusation and insinuation. Judging by the response I was not the only one that thought so.

Ok so you dont want to answer the quiz, I guess I will have to make assumptions.

[BigBear]

For some people everything is black and white....and all percentages they pull out of their asses are completely accurate.

Did you know 80% of all percentages are made up?... ok, ok, it's really 76.5413%...

[68Charger]

But we still believe that there is an invisible man in the sky that says we have to kill each other because he loves us...

Its almost as crazy as believing that hurricane Katrina happened because the God Poseidon/Allah/whatever was angry at the non-believers.

It IS absurd that people believe this- None of the above is supported by the word of Christ.. that's not to say there aren't Christians who believe it... I have no problem discussing religion, I am not personally offended by anyone making blanket statements about any particular religion.

Think of it this way: Every different Christian (or Muslim, or any religious) denomination represents a disagreement between alleged "men of God"... Religion is a man-made institution, and therefore flawed... if everyone interpreted the bible (or whichever book their religion is based on) the same way, then there would only be the one denomination.

In my theology (also man-made, and therefore subject to imperfection- I'm only posting mine because I cannot completely articulate somone else's), the above Quote from Mr. Stryke is explained that God is not the only being that is trying to influence us humans... There is an enemy in our story, and he comes like a thief to steal, kill & destroy. There is Evil in the world- whether you think it comes from a Being, or it just exists, the Evil is undoubtedly present.
Why does God allow Evil to exist? Free will.

My inner geek sometimes wonders if this is just a "model" to represent how Evil is propagated, rather than a literal "Satan" sitting on a throne issuing orders to Demons (who were the 1/3 of the Angels that were cast down with him)... either way, this makes sense to me- I was Agnostic, and many things in life, religion & theology just didn't pass the logical "mustard" until this was factored in...