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    So if a guy or gal was to take the free stamp and SBR their pistol with brace, then can they turn around and put a real stock on it?

    Suppose a guy or gal has lots of pistols with braces. Why not SBR one or two of them for free? Perhaps one day when SBR's become illegal the feds come and confiscate one or two. This guy or gal still has plenty more. (At least until the feds decide to make all guns illegal and confiscate all of them.) It doesn't seem anymore risky to add a couple free stamps than it does to already have stamps for other things.

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    I wouldn't call a guy a pussy. At least if you do you shouldn't even own a brace. You should have stock and a third hole you drilled.

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    ATF also notes that there are legal issues created by simply removing the brace from the affected firearm because this may result in a ?weapon made from a rifle,? which would normally be subject to the NFA. The rule claims that ATF will use its enforcement discretion to not enforce the NFA against users who remove a brace and reconfigure the firearm as a pistol.

    While the agency may be attempting to apply various cases that say possessing a disassembled NFA firearm is the same as possessing a complete NFA firearm, that case law generally does not prohibit someone from possessing the components for an NFA firearm if the components can also be assembled into a non-NFA configuration. ATF must make this clear before many law-abiding gun owners destroy lawfully-acquired property to comply with the rule.
    Source: https://www.nraila.org/articles/2023...ilizing-braces

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    More info from a GOA attorney.

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    don't forget this tidbit.


    Further, the addition of an optic on a pistol that requires eye relief in the same fashion as a rifle will be an SBR. So simply putting an optic on a pistol will likely change it from a pistol to an SBR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    don't forget this tidbit.


    Further, the addition of an optic on a pistol that requires eye relief in the same fashion as a rifle will be an SBR. So simply putting an optic on a pistol will likely change it from a pistol to an SBR.
    So does this mean putting a red dot on a FN509 is now a no-no? ��
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    Quote Originally Posted by electronman1729 View Post
    So does this mean putting a red dot on a FN509 is now a no-no? ��

    Yep...........

    They also in the new rules will investigate manufacturer's advertising to see if they encourage use as a SBR and also look at trends on how the public is using the product. SO there is going to be an ATF person that scours through youTUbe videos to see now consumers are using the Pistol.

    Talk about Orwellian.....................

    I have already posted the summary version but Washington Gun Law did a nice video going over the whole new rule.


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    This entire thing is ridiculous.

    I hate government curtailing one's rights as much or more than the next guy.

    However, the "pistol brace" was simply a way to own a short barrelled rifle without having to pay the NFA tax and register it.

    People are upset because they were taking advantage of a loophole that has been closed.

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