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    Charge Trump for petty crimes? Fair enough. Now do all the rest.

    Hillary paying for the Russian hoax.
    Hillary hiding classified docs.
    Bill paying $800k to Paula Jones.
    Nancy's insider trading.
    Every politician tied to Epstein.
    Every FBI agent tied to the Russian Hoax and Jan 6th.

    Charge. ALL. OF. THEM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    Seriously? You don't see a problem with this prosecution?
    I never said I didn't see a problem. There are lots of them as you outlined.

    There are several lines that have been crossed. I was asking what his definition of the "clear line" was, as it seems different to many.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    This is nothing more than political retribution on a grand scale.

    Even worse than the democrat behavior is the fact they're basically forcing republicans to retaliate or risk never winning office again. If republicans don't start playing the game it's gonna be over for them...because democrats sure as hell aren't gonna stop on their own. They've proven that time and again.
    Way back in 1998, I thought it was a huge mistake for the Republicans to impeach Clinton over his perjury in the Paula Jones case. I thought it was ridiculous to use the nuclear option of impeachment on such a minor issue, and even worse, I knew that once it happened, it would mean that from that point on, every time a president took office, the FIRST thing that would happen on the opposition side was that people would start screaming for impeachment. And that, of course, is exactly what happened. So impeachment went from being a last-resort option to rein in an out-of-control executive, to being just another political tool for the opposition.

    The Democrats finally got their scalp in 2019 when they impeached Trump for - whatever they impeached him for (unlike perjury, "abuse of power" isn't even a crime, it's a tort or a civil wrong.)

    But anymore, impeachment has lost its status as a "last resort" and has now just become another opposition tactic for the out-of-the-white-house party. We can figure that almost any president will get impeached if the opposition party takes the House of Representatives (I think the only reason the Republicans didn't impeach Obama in 2010 was they couldn't agree on what to use as a trumped-up charge.)

    Having said that, I'm not sure that criminal prosecutions will necessarily become a political norm in the future. Trump is unique in many ways (most of them bad.) It's tough to imagine any politician being so brazenly dishonest and still rising to a high rank in the party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martinjmpr View Post
    Way back in 1998, I thought it was a huge mistake for the Republicans to impeach Clinton over his perjury in the Paula Jones case. I thought it was ridiculous to use the nuclear option of impeachment on such a minor issue, and even worse, I knew that once it happened, it would mean that from that point on, every time a president took office, the FIRST thing that would happen on the opposition side was that people would start screaming for impeachment. And that, of course, is exactly what happened. So impeachment went from being a last-resort option to rein in an out-of-control executive, to being just another political tool for the opposition.

    The Democrats finally got their scalp in 2019 when they impeached Trump for - whatever they impeached him for (unlike perjury, "abuse of power" isn't even a crime, it's a tort or a civil wrong.)

    But anymore, impeachment has lost its status as a "last resort" and has now just become another opposition tactic for the out-of-the-white-house party. We can figure that almost any president will get impeached if the opposition party takes the House of Representatives (I think the only reason the Republicans didn't impeach Obama in 2010 was they couldn't agree on what to use as a trumped-up charge.)

    Having said that, I'm not sure that criminal prosecutions will necessarily become a political norm in the future. Trump is unique in many ways (most of them bad.) It's tough to imagine any politician being so brazenly dishonest and still rising to a high rank in the party.
    Hmmm, how bout the current prez?
    "Guilty of collusion"

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    Gas prices rising, banks failing, multiple train derailments, school shooting by a "trans" which has disappeared from the media, interest rates rising

    BUT at least the media is covering
    TRUMP'S INDICTED!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martinjmpr View Post
    It's tough to imagine any politician being so brazenly dishonest and still rising to a high rank in the party.

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