Quote Originally Posted by exxonv View Post
My parents are liberal, used to be "moderate liberal" and generally still are - however, media has influenced them so greatly they are at best, confused liberals. They are anti more than two gender, they are anti censorship, pro 2nd amendment, but they hate anything Trump, they hated Musk, they hate all the cabinet picks, etc., and they believed there was an insurrection and Biden won fair and square. They argue with me about why I could support anything "Republican", even ask me how I, as a professed Christian, could support such people... The last time I voted Democrat was for Bill Clinton's first term, I was young, influenced by the media, didn't really talk about it in the USAF (politics), and made my decision based on the lies that man told... Now, I vote Republican/Conservative 100% of the time, not because I support every Republican politician or Conservative idea, but because I believe in the Constitution, and I am pro 1st and 2nd amendment. Generally liberal in that I really don't give a crap who you sleep with, what your background is, or who you vote for, but I don't want you to take MY rights or those of my family away. Growing up in the late 70's and 80's, I would've believed myself to be more "moderate liberal" - but today, I'd be classified as a bible thumping, gun toting deplorable who loves 80's and 90's metal LOL!!!

wow - that's exactly me (except for the Clinton part). It drives me crazy - my folks raised me to think for myself, and my 80 year-old dad is still Superman to me, but I believe they were so indoctrinated that "Dan Rather doesn't lie" (or some such trust in the press), that they aren't open to exercising the free thought that they taught me. They supported me fervently when I joined the Marines, and Dad said "Give 'em hell" when the desert called. But they think Trump is the devil and any incursion of force he orders must be a crime. Not even open for discussion. Personally, I consider myself a patriot of the country we are meant to be, and primarily, a "freedom guy", typically adhering to the idea of individual freedom balanced with personal responsibility.

And did you know that Sirius radio has a 24/7 Metallica station, and a channel named "Ozzy's Boneyard", playing all the metal bands you remember from high school?