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    My sister is an AFSCME member working for Wisconsin DOT. The unions, especially the various "education" unions are hanging her out to dry.

    The bloody teachers are paid 50% more than she will ever earn and none of 'em work fifty weeks each year, while two of five students never graduate high school.

    She has no option regarding union dues, so a portion of her taxpayer-funded paycheck goes directly to the AFSCME general fund, hence to the Democrat-oriented PAC. She's not any sort of radical, but the red shirt wearing Mob at the capitol building thieves part of her paycheck and the common taxpayers' money.

    My son is an ALPA member. If he did what the Mob at Madison is doing, he'd be out of a job at day #3.

    Disrupting the business of the Assembly is subversive at best and likely seditious. The Mob at Madison deserves nothing but CS gas, bayonets and -- if they're truly, stupidly, stubborn -- ball projectiles. George Washington didn't put up with this crap. Why should we?

    Regarding the supposed "legislators" who have abandoned their positions and failed to fulfill their oaths to serve their constituents, they are not any sort of "bulls". They are very much the typical sort of ungulate prey species whose female examples naturally flee at the first hint of danger, never fighting an adversary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFOGGER View Post


    Be vewwwy, vewwwy quiet....I'm hunting Democwats...
    lol

    wait, why is Elmer wearing hunter hotpants?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeusExMachina View Post
    The Democrats are hiding to prevent a vote that would destroy unions in WI. You're calling the Dems red because they support unions. Let me know if you were just talking out of your ass, or you were trying to make some sort of point.
    Heaven forbid they want the union members to pay a small portion into their own retirement to help reduce the debt the state faces. The OP did not equate unions to commies but since you brought it up...

    Every private employee and citizen in that state are paying for the comfortable retirement of the public employees...many WI public employees currently pay less than 1% into their own retirement...the citizens pay the rest. Sound a bit like redistribution of wealth? Except in this case they are not robbing the rich to give to the poor, they are robbing everyone to give to corrupt public employees protected by unions. That to me sounds a lot like how commies work. It makes me sick that these a-holes think they shouldn't have to invest in their own pensions. IMO the 5% they are asking these people pay into their pensions is not even close to enough...private sector employees are lucky if they only have to pay 50%. Damn entitled self absorbed whining bitches.

    If the Dems and unions there win this fight, the state will go even more broke and none of them will get any pension. It doesn't stand a chance of getting fixed if collective bargaining stays on the table. Pay a little or lose it all...this will happen all over the country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weirjf View Post
    lol

    wait, why is Elmer wearing hunter hotpants?
    He was very young, and was not cognizant of his fashion faux pas...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeusExMachina View Post
    Governments have corruption, but that doesn't mean they are not necessary.

    Unions have corruption, but that doesn't mean they are not necessary.

    yes it does.

    unions are not necessary.

    they were back when they started, when companies treated factory workers like slaves.

    nowadays workers are protected by law from these things. the government has grown. now we have osha and the dept of labor.

    the only reason for unions now is money.

    the money they get from worker's paychecks before the workers even see it, money and benefits that unions EXTORT from companies with their "collective bargaining power" (ie. do what we say or we'll strike"), and the portion of that money the unions take that gets automatically funneled to the democratic party.

    they had a place 100 years ago, now the benefits of unions are almost non existent. as rockhound pointed out, unions have crippled the big three.

    I am anti union because of my own personal experiences and interactions with union types, and I think it's high time we send these thugs packing.

    and guess how I think we should deal with union "toughs" that try and intimidate people......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elhuero View Post
    yes it does.

    unions are not necessary.

    they were back when they started, when companies treated factory workers like slaves.

    nowadays workers are protected by law from these things. the government has grown. now we have osha and the dept of labor.

    the only reason for unions now is money.

    the money they get from worker's paychecks before the workers even see it, money and benefits that unions EXTORT from companies with their "collective bargaining power" (ie. do what we say or we'll strike"), and the portion of that money the unions take that gets automatically funneled to the democratic party.

    they had a place 100 years ago, now the benefits of unions are almost non existent. as rockhound pointed out, unions have crippled the big three.

    I am anti union because of my own personal experiences and interactions with union types, and I think it's high time we send these thugs packing.

    and guess how I think we should deal with union "toughs" that try and intimidate people......
    While I Agree with the Anti-Union Sentiment, Illegally interrupting due process with Absenteeism from YOUR JOB and promoting demonstrations by paid activists isn't a fair a lawful process.

    Just because I dont like a new policy my boss enacts doesn't mean I can skip work in protest and still expect a paycheck.
    Terminate the offices of the representatives of the people that have gone absent, hold a new special election to replace them, and then move forward with the VOTE.
    Yes, VOTE... its that Democratic thing we do where we like to think we have a fair and equal say in things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byte Stryke View Post
    Illegally interrupting due process with Absenteeism from YOUR JOB and promoting demonstrations by paid activists isn't a fair a lawful process.

    Just because I dont like a new policy my boss enacts doesn't mean I can skip work in protest and still expect a paycheck.
    Terminate the offices of the representatives of the people that have gone absent, hold a new special election to replace them, and then move forward with the VOTE.
    Yes, VOTE... its that Democratic thing we do where we like to think we have a fair and equal say in things.
    This. When they decide to come back, they find themselves out of a job. That would happen in ANY other case. You don't show up for work, and don't have a good reason for it? Don't bother coming back. Then they find themselves in the same job market that the rest of us do, and realize they're not untouchable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byte Stryke View Post

    Just because I dont like a new policy my boss enacts doesn't mean I can skip work in protest and still expect a paycheck.

    unioners think they can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elhuero View Post
    unioners and Politicians think they can.

    fixed it for you

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    I say put a bounty on them too. Nothing would take them cry babies down a peg quicker than having them brought back in handcuffs and shackles.
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