Quote Originally Posted by Byte Stryke View Post
Illegally interrupting due process with Absenteeism from YOUR JOB and promoting demonstrations by paid activists isn't a fair a lawful process.
You are 100% correct on this, WI voted the senate in and have to live with the results.

Quote Originally Posted by rockhound View Post
the union has in many occupations outlived its usefulness. originally formed to ensure that workers had a safe work environment and fair wages
Completely applicable when it comes to for profit companies. But with occupations such as teachers there is no way to gauge performance that is fair to the teacher. In this instance how would a teacher ever show competitive edge outside of the amount of education they have received? With teachers completely unable to prove themselves or the quality of work they do, how could they ever expect a increase in pay or benefits?


Quote Originally Posted by jim02 View Post
Unions were created to equal the field but they only helped men with less ability maintain a certain standard, they never helped anyone succeed only exist.
So what your saying is the you feel that the pre-union child labor, 7 day work weeks, and zero consideration for workers health and safety was acceptable? We wouldn't even have OSHA, FSLA, or the FMLA without the ground work form unions.


Bottom line with Wisconsin is they have a supposed budget issue. The deficit is something he created himself, prior to his tax cuts for business's the state was at 54 million positive balance for the year. Had he left things as they were there would be no issue, but he cut taxes to business's and is attempting to crush unions.

Suppose there is some sort of real budget issue they can cut back on teachers, money per student, and facilities. If they did this they would hear a groan and people would go back about life as normal. But instead they are taking the opportunity to crush unions claiming fiscal responsibility. Which by taking away these rights I have not found any information showing that it would actually reduce deficit.

I guess this is a conservatives dream, kill a union, cut schools, support business's with tax breaks rather then let capatalisim work.