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    I think I should get SWAT to adopt clown masks that'll really screw with the perps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn.man View Post
    I think I should get SWAT to adopt clown masks that'll really screw with the perps.
    “Every good citizen makes his country's honor his own, and cherishes it not only as precious but as sacred. He is willing to risk his life in its defense and is conscious that he gains protection while he gives it.” Andrew Jackson

    A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America ' for an amount of 'up to and including my life.'

    That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byte Stryke View Post
    mmk, I see that logic.

    Lets go inside and discuss this away from the camera. Jimbo... without the mask on, yeah you handle the media.

    I get OPSEC.
    but that's silliness
    Jimbo may have been the one he dealt with and doesn't want his face recognized just yet. They may go back in again later and deal with Jimbo again. We wouldn't want Jimbo to know he dealt with an undercover cop and refuse to deal with him some more later, would we?
    “Every good citizen makes his country's honor his own, and cherishes it not only as precious but as sacred. He is willing to risk his life in its defense and is conscious that he gains protection while he gives it.” Andrew Jackson

    A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America ' for an amount of 'up to and including my life.'

    That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.

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    Just saying there are 2 other guys there.
    I get your point but to me it smacks of "Tacti-cool Dude syndrome"

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    Could just be a real ugly MoFo and boss said to keep the fucker on.

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    Reminds me of the Terps we had in Iraq. They would always wear masks and then tell us that the area was safe.

    Hey, at least they got a warrant.
    Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
    Haw haw haw?..

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    Look, I get the basic thoughts behind all the cops on here defending the procedures used (ski masks, etc).

    But you (you the cops,not "you" in particular) and your brothers in blue need to stop and think.

    There are a lot more of us good guys than bad guys. You need us a lot more than we need you. You're losing us. I've never changed, the cops have. Respect is earned over a lifetime and all it takes is one act to blow it.

    Every image that we see with $hit like this drives us further away. For some people one particular BS incident is that straw on the camel's back. You never know what that straw might be, but you need to stop putting them there and start taking them off.

    You can't win over everybody and some people are just bad people. But the cops aren't even trying to win anyone. It's like they are trying to piss everyone off. You're succeeding in pissing us off, but that won't work in the long run.

    And really, don't give us this BS about "rules and procedures". If it's wrong, and you know it's wrong, point it out AND STOP DOING IT. And if you 'lose your job", well too fucking bad, that's what being a free man is all about: having the opportunity to do the right thing.

    Your choice, guys in blue, but don't be surprised that the actions and choices you make have consequences.
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    When I was young cops had respect, you didn't here about them getting shot. They handled things as a person, one of us not I AM BETTER THAN YOU because I have a badge. Kid got in trouble they went to the parents kid didn't get processed, now you have lost the kid if that happens.(as far as respecting law enforcement)
    Cops lived in your neighborhood and participated in kids football, cleaning up a certain lot, blah blah.
    But they are too good for that sort of thing, they hang with their gang bros at the police only gym or other.
    I agree the people have lost respect because of the actions of the so called better than others attitude. And the fact that we will ALL beat on you after we cuff you because you were resisting. GMAFB

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    It's obvious to me that I'm not going to change anyone's opinions here. That's fine, I'm not going to waste my time, energy, or brain to try to make you understand or think outside your small box or limited view of the world.

    John states, " Your choice, guys in blue, but don't be surprised that the actions and choices you make have consequences." Yours too.

    Mountain Man laments, "I agree the people have lost respect because of the actions of the so called better than others attitude." The attitude of the general public towards their government in general, and to the public sector employees like the cops in particular, have influenced how the cops deal with the public. Which came first? The cops attitude towards the public or the public's attitude towards the cops? I'm sure you'll say it was the cops; the cops are going to say it was the publics. Who's right? Maybe both.
    “Every good citizen makes his country's honor his own, and cherishes it not only as precious but as sacred. He is willing to risk his life in its defense and is conscious that he gains protection while he gives it.” Andrew Jackson

    A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America ' for an amount of 'up to and including my life.'

    That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.

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    When you see a video of cops handcuff a person and then 5 or 6 beating the shit outa that person you lose respect fast. Cops have a gang mentality it's us against them. They no longer Protect And Serve, their new job is to arrest and harrass.
    It's the governments Job to make sure every citizen has a record so they can no longer leagally be armed.

    In my family my great grandpa's on both sides were cops, and my grandpa on my dads side was a cop.
    I loved those guys because they were people. They were Citizens. All had served in the military but never did they think they were still in it, and that people were enemy.

    Another thing they were Men, tall, in shape rugged men. Not these fat ass donut eating can't even hold their pants and belts up. Sad to see PC ness I'll sue because of discrimination BS take precident over what used to be an elite work force of only the best.

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