Quote Originally Posted by Atrain1 View Post
As far as shot placement most people have not had close combat training so shot placement when your heart is racing is going to be a problem, again with a 45 it is going to take them down as long as you can put one in the guy.

That is the biggest pile of BS I've seen on this board. Classic "this is a manly round, it'll take them down as long as you can get one hit on em" mentality.
There are PLENTY of instances where multiple hits with a .45ACP doesn't drop an attacker. Do a google search, you'll come up with plenty of news reports and statistics.
I've said it before and I'll say it again.... ALL handgun calibers suck, and they all suck pretty much equally. The difference in effect on target between a single 9mm round and a .45ACP (and a .357SIG, and a .40S&W) is negligible. There is no such thing as "stopping power"... the only true one hit drops are CNS shots, and if you're thinking that you'll pull off a CNS kill with one shot in a gunfight outside of pure luck... well if you're ever in a gunfight, I'll just chalk it up to Darwin at work.
I'll take a few dozen 9mm rounds over 8 .45 rounds anyday... and I can guarantee I can put more rounds on target in less time with my 9mm than you can with your .45.
More rounds on target is the best stopping power there is, and two .356" holes is always bigger than one .452" hole.