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    Every comment in this thread that favors Romney illustrates the symbiotic relationship between the republican and democratic partys. Not one post that says Yah know i dont like Mitts stance on blah but 9 out of ten of his viewpoints I support him on. Its all we gotta beat Obama. Romney can not exist without Obama. On the other side its the same. Most democrats realize that everthing that came out of Obamas mouth during the campaign was a lie. The fear they are being fed is dont you remember Bush. Obama can not exist without Bush. Either party can not exist without the other as no one likes whats going on, they vote out of fear, if there was nothing to fear they would say im not going to vote for this piece of s***. This is the nature of a symbiotic organism. So are the people of the USA channeled into voting for the same organism. What makes it so sad is the people of both sides are ,with exceptions, hard working individuals who want little more than to enjoy their time with their family and have a somewhat satisfying job.

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    Does anyone find it weird that you have one of the biggest conservative uprisings in recent history, with the uprising of the Tea Party, Campaign for Liberty, Freedom Works, and a whole host of other conservative organizations, and yet the most progressive republican candidate gets the nomination?


    Is that just a co-inky dink or is this whole thing by design?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bryjcom View Post
    Does anyone find it weird that you have one of the biggest conservative uprisings in recent history, with the uprising of the Tea Party, Campaign for Liberty, Freedom Works, and a whole host of other conservative organizations, and yet the most progressive republican candidate gets the nomination?


    Is that just a co-inky dink or is this whole thing by design?
    I'd rather not think about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xring View Post
    I will not vote with fear as a driver anymore too old, too tired. Im going to vote for somone who supports the Constitution and balancing the budget.
    The beauty of our system of government is that you're entitled to state your opinion and vote as you want. However, in MY opinion, people that thought as you did are why we got stuck with Slick Willy not once but twice and if we get stuck with O'Bummer a second time, it'll be because of people who hold out for "perfect".

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    Quote Originally Posted by bryjcom View Post
    Does anyone find it weird that you have one of the biggest conservative uprisings in recent history, with the uprising of the Tea Party, Campaign for Liberty, Freedom Works, and a whole host of other conservative organizations, and yet the most progressive republican candidate gets the nomination?


    Is that just a co-inky dink or is this whole thing by design?
    For a Republican to win, he/she needs to capture enough of the political middle to get a majority. An extremely conservative Republican won't be as attractive to that middle as a more progressive one will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter View Post
    The beauty of our system of government is that you're entitled to state your opinion and vote as you want. However, in MY opinion, people that thought as you did are why we got stuck with Slick Willy not once but twice and if we get stuck with O'Bummer a second time, it'll be because of people who hold out for "perfect".

    In my opinion, people that think like you are responsible for the continued turds getting nominations and nothing changing.

    Imagine if more people thought like us and a 3rd party candidate got 20% of the popular vote. I think that might send some messages to the establishment. Now imagine if the following general election a 3rd party candidate got 40% or 50%.



    The bottom line is we need to kill the two party system and get rid of the cancer of voting for the less of two evils. Your mentality hasn't gotten us anywhere.
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    But Bryj their mentality is REALITY. we should all just deal with it and get back into the herd, because maybe next time the candidate will be ok, but this time the earth will explode if the other guy gets in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rucker61 View Post
    For a Republican to win, he/she needs to capture enough of the political middle to get a majority. An extremely conservative Republican won't be as attractive to that middle as a more progressive one will be.
    Riiiiight. Cause that worked so well for McCain

    Your whole premise is based on the idea that somehow a progressive republican will fix our country instead of a democratic progressive.

    The problem is democrats and republicans are equally responsible for the march toward tyranny.

    Do you really think Romney is going to fix our country? Do you really think voting for a "moderate" republican is going to reverse the march toward tyranny? I don't think so.

    You guys that vote against Obama and mark Romney's box are kicking the can down the road, just like I said a few posts ago. Meanwhile the Globalists are laughing the whole time.....

    I pray that my opinion on Romney is wrong.
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    Don't care what party a candidate comes from, think party system is in place to fool people into limiting their own choices and start them down the road to accepting what the party states.

    I analyze each candidates words, actions and deeds, measure that against the yard stick of constitutional adherence and make my determination.

    I have determined that neither the D or R "front runner" even register on the scale. I will not vote for either. Am still looking looking @ the lesser known and unknown candidates.

    Eventually I will select and vote for a candidate and hope he or she wins.

    I see this process as my civic duty and if everyone did it, we would have very little to fear or worry about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bryjcom View Post
    In my opinion, people that think like you are responsible for the continued turds getting nominations and nothing changing.

    Imagine if more people thought like us and a 3rd party candidate got 20% of the popular vote. I think that might send some messages to the establishment. Now imagine if the following general election a 3rd party candidate got 40% or 50%.



    The bottom line is we need to kill the two party system and get rid of the cancer of voting for the less of two evils. Your mentality hasn't gotten us anywhere.
    You guys keep saying that, "Your mentality hasn't gotten us anywhere." How about instead of pointing fingers and playing the blame game you give a little insight, in your opinion, as to how we're going to spread the word and convince the rest. Because by now I think you guys have said it til you're blue in the face and we totally get it, we would love to end the two party system and get a 3rd party candidate elected to help make the changes needed, but I get the impression is that YOU DON'T GET IT- we do, it's not like if we all (members here I mean) vote for a 3rd party they're going to somehow, miraculously, get elected. You have to change a lot of minds away from this thinking, and that cannot happen swiftly, it for sure won't happen this month, this year, hell, I seriously doubt it will happen this DECADE because let's face it, people are stubborn (if you want proof talk to a Democrat, they're pretty stupid and stubborn and never ever ever listen to the other side of the table). You can't change the world overnight, and you're constant (again, not YOU specifically, but people who spout that exact same rhetoric) harping on this "end the two party system, stop with the lesser of two evils crap, you're not helping, blah blah blah" is tired and played out. I don't mean this as an insult to you, but regardless of us getting it or not it's not "us" you need to worry about and berate, it's EVERYONE ELSE that you need to try to convince. For us to recognize the way things are because of everyone else doesn't make it so that we're holding back the 3rd party, it makes it so that we don't waste our vote on someone with a 0.000% chance of getting elected into office in November. Remember, every person who should be voting for Romney that doesn't is taking away a vote from him, and thus giving the upper hand to the Marxist camp of Hussein Obamallama-ding-dong and securing his re-election. Keep that in mind when you hit the voting booth in a few months, please, for the sake of our children and their future.
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