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    “Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monky View Post
    Well if you can't fight you get your ass kicked.

    If you can't draw fast enough your gun is useless..

    If you've let a threat get w/in 21' you're fucking retarded.

    Or.. you're ronin.
    you let me in your house

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    Man up and fight the guy like a man. If you get your ass beat, so be it. It is not worth killing someone over.

    Now, once they pull a knife or any other weapon on you, then it is okay to pull your gun out.

    This thread is slightly frightening. Way to many people advocating killing over a simple fist fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackthewall81 View Post
    Man up and fight the guy like a man. If you get your ass beat, so be it. It is not worth killing someone over.

    Now, once they pull a knife or any other weapon on you, then it is okay to pull your gun out.

    This thread is slightly frightening. Way to many people advocating killing over a simple fist fight.
    Perfect way to be shot with your own gun.
    As a lot of people said before - do everything you can to avoid the fight because when you're carrying a gun - IT IS NOT A FIST FIGHT ANYMORE, THERE'S A GUN INVOLVED.
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    ronin13
    i dont know you personally but i know your posts .don't take this the wrong way but go back a read everything and you will see why some of us see you as a spoiled kid who needs to grow up .im sure you are just fine in person but damn , if you really need advice on how to act then you should not carry .

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    If you carry a lot like you say you should already have this scenario figured out. The first guy gave you a pretty good answer. You will have to articulate what ever you do.

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    That ECQC course looks really solid. Anyone who's been through it have insight on the value, and cost?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmyk2k View Post
    That ECQC course looks really solid. Anyone who's been through it have insight on the value, and cost?
    Craig will be back out here June 7-9 next year. The cost will be $450 for the whole combo. I have we're probably doing In Extremis Knife on Friday night and then ECQC on Sat & Sun. Friday night is most likely going to be in Englewood, and just off Hamden & Broadway and ECQC will probably be down in Elizabeth.

    Until you've done something like ECQC you just don't realize how quickly a scenario can go from talking to fighting to fighting over the gun to shooting.
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    Not looking to justify fighting, but there are situations that you can not get away from. I was in Seattle at the Denver Seattle game (preseason) a few years ago and I was wearing my broncos hat. My buddy, a Seahawks fan and I decided to get a drink at a bar as we walked back towards the ferry. I ordered a beer and before it got there this guy, short bastard, grabbed my shoulder and said "I seen the way you been eye'n me". I did not even get a chance to respond and he punched me in the neck. It didn't really hurt but it caught me completely off guard. I could tell that he was drunk and was winding up for another shot so I squared up and hit him harder than I have ever hit a punching bag before. I think that it was the nerves but I am pretty sure I broke his jaw. I did not really have time to think or process the situation and it was a pure reflex. He was screaming and rolling around on the floor and my buddy and I just got the hell out of there. Had he been a more formidable opponent it could have been way worse.

    I was not carrying for any of it, but I think of it now when I am carrying. It was still light outside, normal downtown area and there was no warning no time and no way out of it. It was a pretty nice bar too, not some run down place shady place. Just a drunk guy wanting to hit someone.

    With all that said, I think that I have developed my situational awareness since then and I might have been able to see it coming a little sooner now than before. In a situation like that there is no time or justification for pulling your weapon. If you have time to think about pulling your gun, you have time to run out the door, call for help or get out of the situation. At no point should drawing your weapon even be a thought unless you are sure that you or someone else is going to die. It takes two to fight, and most people are in it to make you look inferior, and I am fine with looking inferior. I know who I am and what I want in life. I carry to save lives, not to save face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danimal View Post
    I carry to save lives, not to save face.

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