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    Quote Originally Posted by dwalker460 View Post
    Cant get into the cockpit, they have locked and armored door. Even so, at least I am responsible for my safety, not relying on the "vigilance" of others, especially the TSA, who should be fired and the entire organization disbanded.




    Really? Yanno they allowed guns on planes for many many years and shockingly none of them fell out of the air because of a wayward shot from a passenger. Maybe not watch as many movies?

    Suppose the guy in the lane next to me on the highway has bald spots in his tires and veers into my lane and sends me over the river and through the woods into a lake? I choose not to live in fear.



    Well you are welcome to that opinion, as I am welcome to the opinion that anytime I am not responsible for my safety its a bad thing.
    So you feel would feel safer on a aircraft where you and bad guys have guns more so then a aircraft where NO ONE had guns? Good luck with that. Any group of 10 terrorist could just walk right on packing there guns just like you. Good ol'e western shootout on the plane.

    I'm not even going to worry about it because guns will never be allowed on planes (for the general public)

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    Obviously SOMEONE disagrees with you, because the pilots have a gun in the cockpit, and air marshals are armed. So obviously guns on a plane are a good idea.

    There were no acts of terrorism or hijacking prior to firearms being banned from aircraft.

    Terrorists have a habit of not going where guns are, this is why they are called terrorists and not soldiers.

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    Air marshals and armed pilots go through extensive training and back ground checks. Letting every swinging dick carry a gun on board a plane is a terrible idea. Mtnrider is 100% right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnrider View Post
    So you feel would feel safer on a aircraft where you and bad guys have guns more so then a aircraft where NO ONE had guns? Good luck with that. Any group of 10 terrorist could just walk right on packing there guns just like you. Good ol'e western shootout on the plane.

    I'm not even going to worry about it because guns will never be allowed on planes (for the general public)

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    I don't know how old you are but, NEWSFLASH! I recall flying several times in the 60s and seeing more than one person bring a rifle case on board the plane. No telling how many had handguns since you weren't required to go through security. Funny thing...I never saw a shootout on a plane.

    Your comments remind me of the liberals saying if people have concealed carry permits there's gonna be shootouts over parking spaces and the streets will run red with blood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ColoWyo View Post
    Air marshals and armed pilots go through extensive training and back ground checks. Letting every swinging dick carry a gun on board a plane is a terrible idea. Mtnrider is 100% right.

    No, he is wrong, and so are you. Its the same mentality that is eroding our rights in the name of society and civilization. And its wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    I don't know how old you are but, NEWSFLASH! I recall flying several times in the 60s and seeing more than one person bring a rifle case on board the plane. No telling how many had handguns since you weren't required to go through security. Funny thing...I never saw a shootout on a plane.

    Your comments remind me of the liberals saying if people have concealed carry permits there's gonna be shootouts over parking spaces and the streets will run red with blood.

    I'm almost 50... and NEWSFLASH. Times have changed. We are not in the 60's anymore. I am all for conceal carry and I do myself. But to let every swinging dick on a plane with a gun in these days is not a good idea. IMO.
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    This seems really stupid. I might have a micro sized swiss army knife I bought while living in Switzerland 6 years ago that fits this description... that's about it. The Thousands Standing Around don't need any more regulations causing security waits to take even longer.

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    mtnrider - the problem is the TSA cannot stop the bad guys from bringing items onto the plane if they really want to. It is all a farce to try and make us feel safe and to do "something." Allowing law abiding citizens to carry on a plane would not be any more dangerous than allowing concealed carry in any public area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnrider View Post
    I'm almost 50... and NEWSFLASH. Times have changed. We are not in the 60's anymore. I am all for conceal carry and I do myself. But to let every swinging dick on a plane with a gun in these days is not a good idea. IMO.
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    Yeah, it's not the 60s. But there could easily be a way to pre-screen qualified people with permits to carry. Similar to the pre-screening they do to get through the security lines quicker. To make a blanket statement that there would be " western shootouts" on the plane is simply ridiculous. It could be done. We, as a society, just don't have the balls to implement it because, God forbid we allow people to be responsible for their own safety.

    And if "terrorists" were so apt to shoot up a plane, why aren't they doing it all over the country now with much softer, more accessible targets? I think your analysis is flawed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dwalker460 View Post
    No, he is wrong, and so are you. Its the same mentality that is eroding our rights in the name of society and civilization. And its wrong.
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