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"after trying to grab a police officer's gun intended to 'shoot and kill' the Republican presidential nominee"Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter
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The man facing charges for attempting to grab a police officer’s gun so he could allegedly shoot candidate Donald Trump is in the United States illegally.
He had overstayed his visa from the United Kingdom. That information came out during his arraignment at U.S. District Court Monday afternoon.
AP Reports an Assassination Attempt on Donald Trump by Illegal Alien
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Calling that an "assassination attempt" is a bit of a stretch.
How so?
He attempted to steal a gun. He never actually attempted to harm Trump. Attempted theft does not equal attempted assassination.
He never even came close to attempting to harm him.
This dude is obviously insane. But there is no way he gets convicted of attempted murder.
He was stopped in the act of trying to assassinate Trump. He was near enough to take the shot and had his hands on a cop's gun in order to take the shot.
He has confessed to his intentions.
At what point would it be considered an assassination attempt? When he aims? When he takes the shot?
What if he had somehow brought in his own gun and was stopped as he drew it from his pocket. Would that be considered an assassination attempt?
Not worth arguing about, just curious as to where you draw the line.
I suspect he'll be shipped back to the UK at taxpayer's expense and that will be the last we hear of it.
ETA: http://www.legalmatch.com/law-librar...r-lawyers.html
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/arrest-...plan-1.3644760What Is Attempted Murder?
The definition for attempted murder occurs when an individual has an actual intent to carry out a murder or killing of another and takes a substantial step toward the commission of that the killing. The crime of attempted murder will be committed even though the actual killing did not occurred and the defendant failed to complete the crime. Some states will charge a defendant for attempted murder even if the defendant had the intent to commit the murder and started preparation to commit the crime.
Because attempt crimes are always incomplete because the actual crime falls short, establishing intent that the person had the mindset of completing the intended crime is the main element to secure a conviction.
Elements of Attempted Murder
Attempted murder is a very serious criminal charge. To be convicted of attempted murder, prosecutors must be able to prove:
- Deliberate or reckless behavior with extreme disregard for human life
- An intention to actually kill someone
- Substantial evidence that considerable steps were made to commit murder
A complaint filed Monday in U.S. District Court in Nevada charges Sandford, 20, with an act of violence on restricted grounds.
Last edited by davsel; 06-21-2016 at 13:38.
He'll probably be given a cabinet post in the next Clinton administration...
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The headlines would read
RIGHT WING GUN OWNERS CLINTON ASSASSINATION ATTEMPT FOILED.
If this happened at a HRC rally. You bet there would be wall - wall coverage. Right down to his school year babysitters.
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Didn't see anything about this on the forum:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...ning-mate.html
I know nothing about the guy, didn't even recognize his name.
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