Hawaii False Alarm

[Irving]

Or selling surf boards painted like missles.

[hunterhawk]

Am I the only one who wonders if this maybe wasn't an accident? Maybe they did get a real warning or it got shot down or didnt make it.... just saying :-)

Carry on

[Joe_K]

Is there a resource for locating the nearest nuke/bomb/fallout shelter in a given state for those that don’t have one of there own? What would the members here do if this same message had been sent to them yesterday here in CO?

Personally had I been home I would have gotten in the basement with the wife and kids. Not really any time to go anywhere and at least we’d be together.

I wouldn’t want to be on any city road, highway, or interstate if I could help it, If I was I would attempt to find the sturdiest concrete structure nearby and get into/under it.

If I would have been at work I would walk the 1/4 mile to the nuke shelter, praying it was a false alarm the entire time and try and get through to my wife via call or text.


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[GilpinGuy]

What would the members here do if this same message had been sent to them yesterday here in CO?

At home: Not many options up here. Just try to get in touch with close family, tell them I loved them, and pray for the best. Then crack open a beer and hope to see a cool light show before being vaporized.

At work: Good question. Evacuate the casino. Gaming would need to stop so employees could go to one of the shelter areas. This is a good thought experiment and not one of the many covered in training. It's weird that I thought of the business end of things first. But as we saw, it could be a false alarm. CYA, even if you might be dead in a few minutes. LOL

[Sawin]

Am I wrong for immediately wondering if it was hacked and the “accident” claims are just gov trying to CYA?

[StagLefty]

At my age I don't think I'd panic and probaly wouldn't consider surviving a nuclear attack. Say a prayer for humanity and relax.

[Great-Kazoo]

What would the members here do if this same message had been sent to them yesterday here in CO?

At my age I don't think I'd panic and probaly wouldn't consider surviving a nuclear attack. Say a prayer for humanity and relax.

Likewise.
Hope our daughter was doing what she could in the hills of CA, then break out the smoker and grill. Cook or smoke all perishable food, then PARTY TIME.

When the roulette wheel of life picks your number.
Doesn't matter if you're between business meetings or your significant others legs . Your done.

[Mtneer]

Some good info here. Basically shelter in place (see diagram). Radiation won't be nearly as bad if it's an aerial detonation. Don't waste money on potassium iodide pills.

http://www.sciencealert.com/pills-dr...ival-gear-2018

[Aloha_Shooter]

Everyone is also forgetting that the risk in fallout is in long-term exposure. The immediate blast effects will be mitigated by the landscape -- in Hawaii, there are a lot of "mountains" and ridgelines to block the immediate blast. Trade winds will generally blow dust from a Pearl Harbor/Hickam impact out to sea (but a Kaneohe impact will be blown into the mountains and eventually over them into Honolulu proper).

A sewer might provide some shelter from fallout but I'd be worried about its ability to take the shockwave -- really wouldn't want it collapsing on me. I told my sister that if they get a real one, she's probably got about 10 minutes to head up into one of the valleys to get some protection from the blast and shockwave and she can worry about fallout after that. There are tunnels in Diamond Head Crater that were built to withstand bombing and artillery during WW II --- not nuke rated but then again, we're talking about the DPRK, chances are that it's going to fail anyway.

First things first, get somewhere that can protect you from the blast and shockwave before you worry about the fallout.

[Skip]

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If we ever are "nuked" something to remember is the chance of it actually landing anywhere near enough to you to kill you is pretty damn slim. So you might better take some preventative measures and shelter in place instead of standing out there like an idiot. Lots of misinformation in this thread. PS: A sewer would probably offer tremendous radiation shielding*, as would certain floors on even a multi-story above-ground parking garage. I'm not sure where people are getting their information from - movies?

*Unless the sewer had a lot of storm runoff/overflow running through it, then it would be veeeery veeeery bad for you.

ETA: http://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/?&...43&ff=50&zm=11 And keep in mind, Oahu is a tiny island, a fraction of the size of Hawaii (main island)

I assumed a blast radius (or closer) scenario. Putting your kid in the sewer like it's baby Moses on the Nile isn't going to save the kid.

I like that link, played with it before, but always wondered about the yield scenarios. One has to assume we know what NK has/doesn't have.