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Long guns…

I would strongly recommend folks start looking into collectibles to broaden their collections. Older weapons have survived even the NYSafe Act. Milsurps are also heirlooms and investments. I can’t believe the prices of M1 Carbines, M1s, and even M1903s lately. Don’t even get me started on M1911/A1s! I wish I would have gone wildly into debt buying some of these back in the day while everyone else was buying M4 clones and Glocks.

The M1 Garand is an excellent rifle! They can currently be found for $800-1,200 in decent shape. While semi-automatic, the internal magazine exempts it from currently proposed bans. They can be had in .30-06 (the Lord’s caliber) or .308/7.62MM. Both are highly effective and considerably more frightening to me than 5.56MM seeing the results.

Yes, the ammo is more expensive and you have to get rounds specifically for the Garand (I like Prvi). This reinforces the doctrine of the Rifleman; one shot…

We have a thread on these at: https://www.ar-15.co/threads/163240-M1-Garands

There are “tanker” variations with shorter barrels for closer work.

I can reload an M1 just as fast as an AR with a little practice. There are companies that are making tactical carriers for clips. The M1 takes a bayonet which for some reason scares the living shit out of Libs (Berkeley protest flashbacks?).

I have yet to see any legislation proposed regulating clips. Although you can get 2, 3, and 5 round M1 clips specifically for hunting.

You will need to learn irons. Mounting optics is obviously a challenge on older milsurps. You can drill the receiver but then you have altered the original configuration (a potential future ban issue) and cut the collector’s value.

An M1903/1917 is slower, harder to reload, but can shoot as far as you can see. An old man with a bolt gun is formidable foe. The longer the distance, the more chances a person has (space=time=safety). Look for “high number” M1903s (or A3) that will maintain their value as a shooter (I think the heat treat issue is overblown myself but the market is the market).

If someone were to see a milsurp rifle in the statist future, they wouldn’t think “scary black rifle” per their programming. These rifles easily pass for hunting rifles, and a lot of hunters still use them to this day. Someone ignorant about guns couldn’t really tell or articulate the difference between an M1 and a vintage hunting rifle.

[KevDen2005]

Long guns…

I would strongly recommend folks start looking into collectibles to broaden their collections. Older weapons have survived even the NYSafe Act. Milsurps are also heirlooms and investments. I can’t believe the prices of M1 Carbines, M1s, and even M1903s lately. Don’t even get me started on M1911/A1s! I wish I would have gone wildly into debt buying some of these back in the day while everyone else was buying M4 clones and Glocks.

The M1 Garand is an excellent rifle! They can currently be found for $800-1,200 in decent shape. While semi-automatic, the internal magazine exempts it from currently proposed bans. They can be had in .30-06 (the Lord’s caliber) or .308/7.62MM. Both are highly effective and considerably more frightening to me than 5.56MM seeing the results.

Yes, the ammo is more expensive and you have to get rounds specifically for the Garand (I like Prvi). This reinforces the doctrine of the Rifleman; one shot…

We have a thread on these at: https://www.ar-15.co/threads/163240-M1-Garands

There are “tanker” variations with shorter barrels for closer work.

I can reload an M1 just as fast as an AR with a little practice. There are companies that are making tactical carriers for clips. The M1 takes a bayonet which for some reason scares the living shit out of Libs (Berkeley protest flashbacks?).

I have yet to see any legislation proposed regulating clips. Although you can get 2, 3, and 5 round M1 clips specifically for hunting.

You will need to learn irons. Mounting optics is obviously a challenge on older milsurps. You can drill the receiver but then you have altered the original configuration (a potential future ban issue) and cut the collector’s value.

An M1903/1917 is slower, harder to reload, but can shoot as far as you can see. An old man with a bolt gun is formidable foe. The longer the distance, the more chances a person has (space=time=safety). Look for “high number” M1903s (or A3) that will maintain their value as a shooter (I think the heat treat issue is overblown myself but the market is the market).

If someone were to see a milsurp rifle in the statist future, they wouldn’t think “scary black rifle” per their programming. These rifles easily pass for hunting rifles, and a lot of hunters still use them to this day. Someone ignorant about guns couldn’t really tell or articulate the difference between an M1 and a vintage hunting rifle.

I would love to get another M1 but I would like to get a Carbine as well. I have always wanted one.