"Electric Vehicles are Actually Worse for the Environment than Internal Combustion Cars"

[Great-Kazoo]

You keep lumping all EVs into the same category as if they're all the same and you can't figure out why anyone would pay more for one over the other. Go drive a 5-year-old Prius and then drive a 5-Year-Old Tesla Model S and you'll see exactly what you're paying for.

This is similar to the conversation people have that say "All EVs [insert negative thing that one of them does] so that's why I will never own one." which gets tiresome when someone is basing their opinion of a $150k luxury car on their personal experience with a clapped out rattle can EV.

That's kind of elitist . Hurt your neck looking down, much .

[skoodge]

The problem is that the other car companies "dabbling" are doing just that. None of the big dogs are going full-tilt which is why their EV cars suck. I feel like they can throw away a small amount of money on their EV division and create some worthless turd just to say "See, we made it and nobody wanted an EV" when in reality it was just THEIR EV that sucked. Hell, Tesla even opened up their patent portfolio for others to utilize because their stated goal from day 1 was to accelerate the transition to EV since nobody else was. They even said they can use their Supercharger network but none of them will because they want to create their own proprietary system that they can then generate residual profits on long-term. Tesla is so far ahead that nobody is even close which worries me for the future. A future with no competition hurts the consumer. I really wish everyone else would take this shit serious and step up to the plate because right now Tesla has a massive lead in all of the important categories when others are still meeting about if they think it's a good idea or not.

I think Ford said they were going to reveal a fully electric F150 within the year, or next year. And I think a few other companies (I dont remember who or what) had some similar big thing cooking. That should help the "dabbling" issue.

But yes, the whole propriatary think is super annoying in all areas of tech. Example, my samsung phone and my wifes apple, cant use the same charger pisses me off sometimes, just use the same port type you bastards

[Irving]

I think Ford said they were going to reveal a fully electric F150 within the year, or next year. And I think a few other companies (I dont remember who or what) had some similar big thing cooking. That should help the "dabbling" issue.

But yes, the whole propriatary think is super annoying in all areas of tech. Example, my samsung phone and my wifes apple, cant use the same charger pisses me off sometimes, just use the same port type you bastards

The Freakonomics podcast has the CEO of Ford on recently, and he came right out and said that they are interested in automated vehicles to generate and profit off of users meta data.

[hollohas]

Making do is for communists. Americans go big or go home.

Amen.

[OtterbatHellcat]

I gave it a try to read through this thread, can't do it. It's a neat idea, but it ain't gonna work out for everyone in the long run.

It's probably fun trying to convince everyone I suppose, and at the same time it seems like something I'd see on a libtard board too. The same board that has Vegan recipes and fun stuff on Etsy too.

[hollohas]

That's kind of elitist . Hurt your neck looking down, much .

Tier 1 EV is the only way to go. If you're not spending over a year salary on your EV, you don't deserve an opinion.

In all seriousness, I appreciate the Tesla and it's luxury sports car attitude. It's fast and that's really the only aspect that appeals to me.

[UrbanWolf]

What a clusterfuck, again.

[BPTactical]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CokKUMYM0KI

[skoodge]

Uggggg. Good thing automated vehicles are a ways off, but not surprising these days.

[OtterbatHellcat]

automated vehicles

You'll find some serious passion in that discussion for sure. It's my best guess.