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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Where are you going with this? BLM tried to burn down the entire apartment building of an elected representative and nothing happened to them.
    My point exactly and thank you for illustrating it.

    Something something some animals are more equal than others, double standards etc.....
    The most important thing to be learned from those who demand "Equality For All" is that all are not equal...

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    Default My poor ass & the shelves were full

    I bought toilet paper last night at Walmart. The price marked on the shelf was $14.95. I checked out, it was $19.98

    The shelves were full, but no prices were marked. I blame the New York Stink Exchange (NYSE). Butt it was worth it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CS1983 View Post
    Young woman shot in neck in Capitol building:
    https://twitter.com/TaylerUSA/status...rnhardt.biz%2F

    Sounded a bit like if you shot a suppressed carbine in a room made of stone and tile... cops?
    Other angles show pistol. Must have clipped audio on the mic.
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    There are lines (EXAMPLE: red line on AF base) if crossed, can get you killed. Some of those lines are well marked and fairly well known, while others are not.

    If you believe in the principle of Stand Your Ground, you have to at least consider the Capitol Police, who are charged with the protection of the personnel within the building as having some authority to use deadly force when people are inside the Capitol and presenting a danger.

    Jump the fence at a nuke site, a prison, the White House, other sensitive or restricted sites and thank the guards for exercising discretion if they don't shoot you. She wasn't walking down a public sidewalk. She rolled her dice and they came up "snake eyes." Sad but very foreseeable, given the circumstances.

    I was a little surprised they took the shot with the other Capitol Police officers behind her. A miss or pass through could easily have it one of those officers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ray1970 View Post

    If any of the participants went into this thinking there was zero chance anything bad could happen to them then they are idiots.

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    ^This.

    Every single one of those people should have known that breaching a federal building could result in being shot. I guarantee this lady knew that going in. She made a choice. Good or bad shoot, that's the truth. Right or wrong, my bet is whoever killed her won't see any charges.

    The Fed Gov, that is no friend of the People, got a little reminder yesterday that their little safe space isn't actually so safe. No congressmen or women got strung up. None of them got tarred and feathered. No congressmen or women got hurt. They got a reality check directed squarely at them (as opposed to unrelated civilian businesses and property being targeted)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delfuego View Post
    Get the fuck out of here with this garbage. You cannot blame the liberal bogeyman for this one. You can spread this BS somewhere else. Dont be a sheep. Think for yourself. Use your own eyes and ears.
    Here is something for your own eyes and ears; at least until all the videos are censored.

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1347007733619372035
    https://twitter.com/i/status/1347032914182217728
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    Probably was a Sig. I feel sorry for her husband. The nation is divided.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ray1970 View Post
    I?m sure we will never know all of the facts surrounding the shooting.

    Looking at it as some sort of a typical law enforcement scenario it would definitely be a bad shoot.

    But, inside what could be a restricted area of the capital building... who knows. The rules of engagement or the orders given to the security personnel could be totally different from what applies to a normal agency working public areas of a city. For all we know the armed guys in the barricaded area may have had strict orders that nobody was allowed to enter that area and that anyone doing so was fair game to be stopped at any cost.

    I just don?t think any of us can really judge whether it was a bad shoot without all of the behind the scenes knowledge of the situation. The guy who fired the shot may have acted well within the current protocol at the time.

    I'd agree with this and that's what I thought. I don't know exactly what's behind those doors. She clearly wasn't just leaning thru the window. She was in the process of climbing thru it. I also don't know the circumstances of how that woman and all the other protestors made or gained entry into that area. But my first thought is most of them, at a minimum, are probably in the process of committing burglary. That's according to a widely used definition of illegally entering a building with the intent of committing a crime. So, to me (and this is just speculation on my part), she was likely in the process of committing a felony.

    Based on what I saw in the video it doesn't appear to me that deadly force was appropriate. But I don't have the entire story so I'm not going to judge the officer's actions one way or another. I will say this entire incident is being treated completely differently by EVERYONE in politics and the media from the violent riots peaceful protests over the summer by those on the left. I'm so sick of the double standards I could just scream.

    To all of you who think it's time to rise up, this is just a tiny, raindrop-in-the-ocean-sized taste of what that would look like. I would much rather deal with a leftist presidential administration than a full-blown revolution.
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    +1 to that BG. Its not that I expect charges either or that there isn't legal justification, undoubtedly there is plenty of legal justification, hell they could mow down the whole group breaking down the door with a M249 and likely still have legal justification and not face charges in light of the unique circumstance (although there would be other ramifications....)

    It just appears to be lacking perhaps in enough moral justification. As we all know, what is legal or illegal has little to do with what is right, or what appropriate reactions and actions should be. I do agree the double standard is ridiculous and offensive. If the shoe was on the other foot, 500+ businesses would have been burned to the ground and looted already "in protest". It happens to us, and it's like half our own people are like "Well, she did start to enter the building, so guess she deserved to die".

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    Quote Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy View Post
    Probably was a Sig. I feel sorry for her husband. The nation is divided.

    https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/10/09/840186/
    The link you provided was for the Virginia Capitol Police in Richmond, VA.

    US Capitol Police may be carrying SIG pistols, but I thought they had transitioned to Glock some time back.

    https://www.policemag.com/506113/u-s...pitol-bathroom
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