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    Capitalism, it's what our country is based on....for now. Not one astute business owner would pay $27/hr to an employee if they could get the same skill level for half that.

    Either a person embraces capitalism and all it entails or they pine for socialism. There's isn't a lot of middle ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hatidua View Post
    Either a person embraces capitalism and all it entails or they pine for socialism.
    Says the guy who lives in Boulder...

    An honest days pay for an honest days work; and a proud, strong middle class is part of what this country was based on. Not corporate greed parading around as "Capitalism"
    If your post count is higher than your round count, you are a troll.

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    I just hope allot of people remember this when they get dumped into the pool.



    Suck: Applying for a job and being told that they stopped accepting resumes after the first 500.

    Really Suck: costs for everything is going up, wages are going down.

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    Not a single post about needing a Union?

    IT work is such an iffy thing. I'm usually surprised when even large companies haven't completely contracted all but the most essential functions.

    I hope you get the job Guy. I'm sure there will be another job for your friend. I hope it is better than the one he just lost.

    $13.75/hour is about $5 more than the evil Walmart is paying. I know because I'm in the mirror practicing, "Welcome to Walmart!" "Thank you for shopping at Walmart!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by cstone View Post
    Not a single post about needing a Union?

    IT work is such an iffy thing. I'm usually surprised when even large companies haven't completely contracted all but the most essential functions.

    I hope you get the job Guy. I'm sure there will be another job for your friend. I hope it is better than the one he just lost.

    $13.75/hour is about $5 more than the evil Walmart is paying. I know because I'm in the mirror practicing, "Welcome to Walmart!" "Thank you for shopping at Walmart!"
    "Welcome to Walmart, I love you. Welcome to Walmart, I love you."


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    Quote Originally Posted by cstone View Post
    Not a single post about needing a Union?

    IT work is such an iffy thing. I'm usually surprised when even large companies haven't completely contracted all but the most essential functions.

    I hope you get the job Guy. I'm sure there will be another job for your friend. I hope it is better than the one he just lost.

    $13.75/hour is about $5 more than the evil Walmart is paying. I know because I'm in the mirror practicing, "Welcome to Walmart!" "Thank you for shopping at Walmart!"

    I Applied to walmart... Overqualified.
    Manager told me straight up that I had more IT experience than his entertainment dept manager...

    wouldn't hire me.


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    same thing happened to me in 2008. The company I was working for "restructured" and let 5 of us go (maybe what they thought was overpayed or dead weight) I was replaced by someone making $15.00 an hour (I made $112k that year). The company saved over $75K in payroll just by replacing me, nevermind the other 4 people.

    I was out of work for about 4 months before I went to work for a new competitor to the market. In 6 months I picked up over a million dollars in business from my old company.

    So to save $75,000 in payroll commissions, they lost over $200,000 in gross profit.

    I ran into the VP of sales at a "trade show" who commented on the damage I did while I worked for them...How I destroyed my territory, and was a horrible employee. A couple weeks later I was served with papers that I was being sued for violation of my non compete.

    I was so bad I took most of my old territory with me when I went to another company

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeT View Post
    same thing happened to me in 2008. The company I was working for "restructured" and let 5 of us go (maybe what they thought was overpayed or dead weight) I was replaced by someone making $15.00 an hour (I made $112k that year). The company saved over $75K in payroll just by replacing me, nevermind the other 4 people.

    I was out of work for about 4 months before I went to work for a new competitor to the market. In 6 months I picked up over a million dollars in business from my old company.

    So to save $75,000 in payroll commissions, they lost over $200,000 in gross profit.

    I ran into the VP of sales at a "trade show" who commented on the damage I did while I worked for them...How I destroyed my territory, and was a horrible employee. A couple weeks later I was served with papers that I was being sued for violation of my non compete.

    I was so bad I took most of my old territory with me when I went to another company
    This is exactly the problem the company that the OP is talking about will face. You get what you pay for. They are trying to make due with the skill set of a 13 dollar an hour employee (Byte Stryke I am not attacking you) when they need a 27 dollar an hour employee. Either they will strike gold with Byte because somehow they will get the 27 bucks an hour work out of 13 bucks in pay or they will end up hurting themselves in the short and long term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmleadr03 View Post
    This is exactly the problem the company that the OP is talking about will face. You get what you pay for. They are trying to make due with the skill set of a 13 dollar an hour employee (Byte Stryke I am not attacking you) when they need a 27 dollar an hour employee. Either they will strike gold with Byte because somehow they will get the 27 bucks an hour work out of 13 bucks in pay or they will end up hurting themselves in the short and long term.
    yes you are, fucker


    BTW when I was at ITT I made 28.87/hr as a Systems/Network/Security admin
    so yeah I am already taking a huge cut just to get back to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byte Stryke View Post
    yes you are, fucker


    BTW when I was at ITT I made 28.87/hr as a Systems/Network/Security admin
    so yeah I am already taking a huge cut just to get back to work.
    Well, you read the rest of it so you realize what I meant by that. They are trying to fool themselves that they will get 27 bucks an hour work out of someone by paying them 13. With you, like you just pointed out they may have struck gold. Or you may take the energy you would put into the job to give 27 bucks worth of performance and keep looking for another job.

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