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    a parking ticket is issued by a actual officer, totally different story than a photo ticket that is issued by a contracted private company and sent through the mail. plus a parking/plate ticket is not a moving violation and is tied to the vehicle, a red light/speeding ticket is a moving violation and tied to the operator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by car-15 View Post
    a parking ticket is issued by a actual officer,
    Not in the city of Denver they aren't. It is the worthless POS meter maid trash. I mean, the police in Denver CAN issue tickets, but you basically have to be called in by someone in order for an actual police officer to write the parking ticket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GilpinGuy View Post
    Aren't there stats that show that there are more traffic accidents near red light cameras because people jam on the brakes when the light turns yellow, causing rear end crashes?

    The cameras are just revenue generators. No clue on the legality of blatantly not paying though.
    NO, what happens is (and it's well documented) is that they shorten the yellow light time, which causes accidents.
    It's well proven if you want to reduce accidents at an intersection you just increase the yellow light time (and it's a tiny increase)

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    that raises no more money for the ever growing state.
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    Doesn't seem as though it's worth it to not pay $40-$60 and have it screw up your credit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidicarus13 View Post
    Doesn't seem as though it's worth it to not pay $40-$60 and have it screw up your credit.
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    "I have no memory of receiving a citation and you have no signature or other evidence I received one. Your Honor, do we have a witness from the Postal service here?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    I know, I just wanted to put it out there in case anyone else has any. I figured I'd call their bluff. The city of Denver owns their own collections agency. So they ticket you, then turn it over to their collection agency and get 3 times the price.
    They don't however own the photo radar vans. They contract with a private OUT OF STATE company. The dummies don't even hire a local company to send out fake tickets...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byte Stryke View Post
    "I have no memory of receiving a citation and you have no signature or other evidence I received one. Your Honor, do we have a witness from the Postal service here?"
    That worked in a call a friend got from the City of Denver- but it was for a parking ticket. They told him "The parking enforcement officer (gag) placed the ticket in your door." He replied "there was nothing in my door, there was nothing anywhere on my car indicating that I committed any parking infraction." Dismissed...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byte Stryke View Post
    "I have no memory of receiving a citation and you have no signature or other evidence I received one. Your Honor, do we have a witness from the Postal service here?"
    This would be my defense. I have not received one yet (knocks on wood) but I will not pay them. I am not paying for ANYTHING that I did not sign for. $40 is half a tank of gas for my truck. IIRC, at one time there was a thread on this kind of tickets and seemed like 50% of the people did not pay them and had no problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidicarus13 View Post
    Doesn't seem as though it's worth it to not pay $40-$60 and have it screw up your credit.
    No front plate tickets used to be $25, and i would readily pay them. They arbitrarily raised the price to $75, and I changed my tune. I have a deep hatred for Denver and avoid it as much as possible.
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