"Your Car Is An Extension of Your Home": What does this mean?

[JMBD2112]

Hell, four more years of Obamanomics and my car is gonna be my home!

^^^^

[JMBD2112]

Well I did have one instance where two dick park rangers in Tellico, TN gave me a breathalyzer 6 times and they were very disappointed that I passed.

[Bailey Guns]

It's not likely that an officer will apply for a warrant for a vehicle search unless there are some really unusual circumstances. There are much easier ways to get into the car legally. Here's an example of a stop I did:

I stopped a car in the middle of the night (about 0230) for a minor traffic violation...don't recall what. Talked to the driver and asked for DL, registration and proof of insurance. The guy gave me his DL and then opened the glove box to look for the other stuff. When he opened the glove box I saw a stack of cash about 4" thick with a $100 bill on top, wrapped tightly in a zip-lock bag. He couldn't find his insurance card. His address was in the metro area, about an hour from where I stopped him. I mentioned that was a lot of cash he had...didn't ask why he had it. The guy said he was going to look at an appt in a nearby community. That seemed pretty odd because it was 0230 in the morning. I asked where was this appt and why was he going at 0230. I think he realized he'd opened a can of worms and tried to evade my question...so I asked again where he was going. He couldn't give me a location. I asked if he was going to meet someone and he said he was but couldn't give me a name or location of who he was meeting or where.

The more I asked questions, the more evasive he became. I got him out and and gave him a pat-down. I asked for consent to search his car. He refused. I then arrested him for NPOI. I told him I was going to impound the car and, since he had such a large amount of cash, I was going to conduct an inventory search. Then he told me I could go ahead and search and he signed the consent form. In the trunk I found a lot of burglary tools and other misc property items. Turns out he was a fairly prolific burglar and the arrest cleared over 30 burgs in the area and nearby communities.

The point is, it's pretty unusual to arrest someone for NPOI. But, in this case, it was an easy way to get into the car and there really wasn't anything he could do about it. His lawyer tried to suppress the search as coercive during the prelim but the judge ruled it was perfectly legal.

[clublights]

Is that the same as mood lighting?

Mood lighting ? Thats my department .

[JMBD2112]

Wow, thats some crazy shit Bailey

[Teufelhund]

It's not likely that an officer will apply for a warrant for a vehicle search unless there are some really unusual circumstances. There are much easier ways to get into the car legally. Here's an example of a stop I did:

I stopped a car in the middle of the night (about 0230) for a minor traffic violation...don't recall what. Talked to the driver and asked for DL, registration and proof of insurance. The guy gave me his DL and then opened the glove box to look for the other stuff. When he opened the glove box I saw a stack of cash about 4" thick with a $100 bill on top, wrapped tightly in a zip-lock bag. He couldn't find his insurance card. His address was in the metro area, about an hour from where I stopped him. I mentioned that was a lot of cash he had...didn't ask why he had it. The guy said he was going to look at an appt in a nearby community. That seemed pretty odd because it was 0230 in the morning. I asked where was this appt and why was he going at 0230. I think he realized he'd opened a can of worms and tried to evade my question...so I asked again where he was going. He couldn't give me a location. I asked if he was going to meet someone and he said he was but couldn't give me a name or location of who he was meeting or where.

The more I asked questions, the more evasive he became. I got him out and and gave him a pat-down. I asked for consent to search his car. He refused. I then arrested him for NPOI. I told him I was going to impound the car and, since he had such a large amount of cash, I was going to conduct an inventory search. Then he told me I could go ahead and search and he signed the consent form. In the trunk I found a lot of burglary tools and other misc property items. Turns out he was a fairly prolific burglar and the arrest cleared over 30 burgs in the area and nearby communities.

The point is, it's pretty unusual to arrest someone for NPOI. But, in this case, it was an easy way to get into the car and there really wasn't anything he could do about it. His lawyer tried to suppress the search as coercive during the prelim but the judge ruled it was perfectly legal.

I'm torn on this one. While on one hand it's great that you nabbed a known criminal, the way you went about it was shady. Why was it any of your business how much cash he had on him or where he was going (which is exactly what I would have told you if I had been the driver)? Nailing a serial burglar should require investigative work related to the crime, not some bullshit you stumbled onto by chance. What if he had just been some small business owner who works late and doesn't like to leave his cash in the bank? NPOI aside, you abused your authority and it just happened to work out in your favor.

[clublights]

Uhh..... Whats NPOI ?

[JMBD2112]

Uhh..... Whats NPOI ?

No proof of insurance

[clublights]

No proof of insurance

DUH **smacks forehead** why couldn't I get that thanks !

[JMBD2112]

DUH **smacks forehead** why couldn't I get that thanks !

It's ok, i had to google PC and NPOI to figure it out too haha