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    +1--- How many signatures do we need? process? Don't care to read it, if someone can just tell me, and were i need to sign/donate.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by waxthis View Post

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    So, selling a $100 bolt action .22 rifle private party without going through an FFL will result in a $5000 fine, 18 months imprisonment, and a felony conviction? That seems unreasonable, even by New York standards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DHC View Post
    Yes, there is. It is entitled: Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act, signed into law in 2005.

    Edit to Add: The Supremacy Clause of the Constitution should render any passage of that Colorado law void - though probably not before a protracted legal battle.
    And that is the point. Bleed you dry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 10mm-man View Post
    +1--- How many signatures do we need? process? Don't care to read it, if someone can just tell me, and were i need to sign/donate.....
    I think we need one organizer to pull efforts together. If it operates like the constitutional amendments did, then someone has to write the petition, notify the SoS of intent to place it on the ballot and then they have a limited time to collect sufficient signatures to place it on the ballot. I'd probably suggest a separate petition for each legislator but with similar wording on the reason and cause. That way the NIMBY beeches can sign the petition to remove all the anti-gun assembly members but their own and we might still get enough signatures to get on the ballot. THIS is what RMGO or CSSA could spearhead and actually do something productive with.

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    So, how do they plan on enforcing the magazine restriction? Are they going to serialize every 10+ magazine and track them in a database? I have a couple hundred of them.

    The liability on owners is kind of scary. So, if somebody steals your AR stored and locked away in your home and kills somebody, you will be destroyed financially for the rest of your life. However, if they kill somebody with your baseball bat, knife, or bolt action rifle, that is perfectly acceptable...sounds reasonable. What a bunch of BULLSHIT!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 10mm-man View Post
    +1--- How many signatures do we need? process? Don't care to read it, if someone can just tell me, and were i need to sign/donate.....
    The details are here http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.ph...ll_in_Colorado

    basically it says:

    Signature requirement

    The number of valid signatures required to force a special recall election is 25% of the votes cast in the last election for the official being recalled.

    Filing for recall

    First a recall petition must be filed with the office in which nomination petitions are filed for the official that is being recalled. Generally this office is the Colorado Secretary of State. The petition must include a statement of no less than 200 words explaining the ground on which the official is to be recalled. This measure is for the benefit of citizens who will sign the petition.

    Circulation


    After the petition is approved by the Secretary of State, circulation of the petition may begin. Petitioners have 60 days to gather the proper number of signatures. After the proper number of signatures have been gathered the petition is submitted to the office in which it was filed to be deemed sufficient. This entails verifying the signatures. Once the petition has been deemed sufficient, the office in which it was filed will deliver the petition along with a certificate of it's sufficiency to the governor who will then set a date for the recall election.

    Recall election


    After the petition has been deemed sufficient, the official against whom the recall was filed may resign within five days without having the recall election held against them. if the official does not resign the recall election will go on as scheduled. The election will be held not more than 60 days after the petition was deemed sufficient but not within 30 days after. However if a general election is within 90 days of filing, then the recall elcetion will beheld in conjunction with the general election.
    The ballot will include the original statement from the petitioners as to why the official in question should be recalled, as well as a no more than 300 word rebuttal from the official if they so wish.
    The ballot will have two boxes marked "Yes" approving the recall and "No" disapproving the recall. there will also be a list of candidates for whom those that voted for the recall may vote for to replace the official. In this sense the recall election is held simultainiously with the election of the new official.
    If a majority of voters vote "no" on the recall, the official whom the recall was filed against will remain in their position. If there is a majority "Yes" votes then the new official will be the candidate on the list with the most votes.
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    With no Amendment 64 on the ballot dragging out a higher than normal amount of left-leaning voters and an equally high amount of voters that only turned out because of the presidential election no longer showing up, a recall election has a very, very real chance of succeeding. I wonder if these clowns pondered these facts when they came up with this garbage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jhood001 View Post
    With no Amendment 64 on the ballot dragging out a higher than normal amount of left-leaning voters and an equally high amount of voters that only turned out because of the presidential election no longer showing up, a recall election has a very, very real chance of succeeding. I wonder if these clowns pondered these facts when they came up with this garbage.
    Hubris, pure and simple.

    That and most of these people live and work in an echo chamber ... I'm amazed when I speak to some Denverites or Boulderites and they honestly believe that the vast majority of Coloradoans agree with them on even the most leftist of things. They honestly believe that farmers in Rocky Ford or ranchers outside Burlington are pro gay marriage, pro gun control, pro abortion and anti capitalist.
    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

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    +1 for the recall election. let me know when and where i need to sign

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