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I have spent some time searching for anyone in Watertown posting incidents where LEOs entered residences without consent, and I haven't found any. If anyone finds evidence that LEOs in Watertown entered occupied dwellings without the consent of the owners/occupants, please post a link here.
These are all very interesting academic discussions and I am glad we live in a country where we can still discuss our options if/when the circumstances arrive where we must make a decision.
Here is an interesting blog post discussion: http://myfreedomfoundation.com/blog/...e-for-a-bomber
Be safe.
I talked about this for a bit with my father-in-law. As a former LEO (only a few years) and my father in law as a retired LEO, my initial gut reaction was....get an F'n warrent you PIG. Honestly, my father-in-law agreed.
After some internal debate I agreed with the OP; they got a tough job.
"Sure, come in, look for the bad guy, go to next house. Thank you for what you are doing. Be safe!"
HOWEVER...AFTER THIS:
"Yes sir. I'll put my hands on my head and walk out." (get to the cleared area) "Please tell me who the supervisor is and I would like a business card. Thank you, be safe Mr. Police Officer."
Ring Ring "Mr. Attorney, I'm suing the shit of the PD for illegal search. I have the card of the PoPo in charge."
This one not as dramatic:
sorry for the "wordyness." I was cooking dinner and typing/researching at the same time.
Basically I went from:
Hell no, get a warrant
to:
Ok, feel free to search, be careful.
Back to:
F-N and BTW, I'll be calling a lawyer soon.
Our legal system favors the innocent. It would rather see a guilty person walk free than put an innocent person in jail. When cops start treating everybody as guilty upon first contact, even in high stress situations like this, then they are doing it WRONG. Unless they can articulate that they had a credible tip that made them feel the suspects where in THAT house, the way they treated those people were uncalled for. Let's just get rid of warrants all together and just go with no-knock (warrantless) searches while we are at it. With this display, the terrorists are winning (still).
Last edited by muddywings; 04-21-2013 at 19:14.
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The first video above sure doesn't look like the occupants were very consenting. Hands on their heads and not allowed to even be present during the search. Sure, ask them to keep their hands on their heads for the officers safety...but make them run down the street?!?! Come on, that sure appears to be overboard.
That being said, was that a clown house? How many people were in there?
I thought the same thing - LOL !
[QUOTE=hollohas;1092599]The first video above sure doesn't look like the occupants were very consenting. Hands on their heads and not allowed to even be present during the search. Sure, ask them to keep their hands on their heads for the officers safety...but make them run down the street?!?! Come on, that sure appears to be overboard.
That being said, was that a clown house? How many people were in there?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, i was wondering that.... but I figured they had family from the neighborhood staying over glued to the boobtube or something.
Looking back, because they didn't go house to house, I now wonder if they had a tip.
"The thing about quotes on the internet is that you cannot confirm their validity." -Abraham Lincoln
Exactly. What led them to focus on that particular house and occupants? I'm not willing to pass judgment until I have a lot more information than a video.
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That first video I bet with enough press that could get some hopefully some sort of rebuttal.
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The pounding on the door... I ve already deleated a couple of posts... words are escaping me..
I guess here is my trouble: they're not chasing the guy into the house so you don't have hot pursuit/extigent circumstances. They have a small army there so the house is most likely surrounded. Do they not have a judge nearby that can sign off on a warrant?
knock knock "search warrant"
i guess martial law has its perks but again I'm sure I'm missing something from the puzzle--at least I hope so.
Last edited by muddywings; 04-21-2013 at 20:19.
"The thing about quotes on the internet is that you cannot confirm their validity." -Abraham Lincoln
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