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    Quote Originally Posted by funkymonkey1111 View Post
    they do? from what Cofi describes, these were seized as weapons, not an improper bottle of shampoo. I hate the TSA as much as anyone but if you tried to take a glock through the detector i'd bet you're not getting it back
    Even their site exempts butter knives http://www.tsa.gov/traveler-informat...ohibited-items. No law is broken until you get on the plane so they can not seize your property for a crime you have not committed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boadie30 View Post
    Which airport??
    Newark

    im betting she didnt get anyones badge number is there any other way i can look up the incident? they basically stole our shit

    edit: she told me they wouldnt give her the form because it was considered weapons and if it had been a snow globe or something she could have filled out a form and had them mailed to her and that she couldnt put it in her checked luggage because once your through the security you cant go back out
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter View Post
    On the one hand, I don't understand why your wife thought she was going to be able to transport them by hand and didn't just use FEDEX to send them home when even first class still gets plastic cutlery (on those few flights that still serve hot meals). On the other hand, TSA should have given her the option to get them back and NOT go through the security line. It would have been worth the cost of changing her ticket so she had the time to ship them home. I'd have asked to talk to a manager and get names and employee numbers so she could file a report with the TSA IG on what essentially was theft of antique heirlooms.
    why would we pay to send it home(and risk losing it that way) when she can just bring the shit with her?

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    You'd pay to send it home because you CAN'T take metal forks and knives with you on the plane -- but them claiming they were weapons to prevent her from reclaiming them is BS. Problem here is she has no documentation anymore and I'm sure the fsckers will claim they threw it out. If this happened recently, she MAY be able to get a supervisor to check security tapes but she needs to call immediately. I'd contact both the local head of TSA in Newark AND the IG (and make sure Newark knows you're complaining to the IG). Better yet, since her family is presumably local to Newark, have her father go pitch a fit to them in person -- much harder for them to ignore irate taxpayer loudly proclaiming "theft" in person than Jane Q. Public calling over a phone, especially if it just so happens the local news is present and filming while he's making his complaints. ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rabid View Post
    Even their site exempts butter knives http://www.tsa.gov/traveler-informat...ohibited-items. No law is broken until you get on the plane so they can not seize your property for a crime you have not committed.
    No law is broken until you get on the plane? Where the heck are you getting that? You mean to tell me all the times people tried to bring guns through a security checkpoint the TSA waits until they get on the plane?

    Further, note that on the "butter knife" exemption the TSA states "Even if an item is generally permitted, it may be subject to additional screening or not allowed through the checkpoint if it triggers an alarm during the screening process, appears to have been tampered with, or poses other security concerns. The final decision rests with TSA on whether to allow any items on the plane." "Poses other security concerns" just about gives them carte blanche to prohibit what they want, even if their website says otherwise, all in the name of "safety."

    Look, I don't agree with the TSA here at all--i'm just saying once there's a determination of a weapon (which is what Cofi said) you're not getting that thing back.

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    Even when I accidentally brought a leatherman into security (it had a small blade) they gave me the opportunity to mail it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cofi View Post
    why would we pay to send it home(and risk losing it that way) when she can just bring the shit with her?
    Not to sure about NewArk. But in the rest of the country, they have this thing called INSURANCE to add on to any package sent of value.
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    Quote Originally Posted by newracer View Post
    Even when I accidentally brought a leatherman into security (it had a small blade) they gave me the opportunity to mail it.
    was that recently? they seem to be taking a harder line lately. of course, all the new signs threatening arrest for guns, knives, etc. don't include priceless family silver....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rabid View Post
    Even their site exempts butter knives http://www.tsa.gov/traveler-informat...ohibited-items.
    I was curious what there definition of butter knife was. This i s what I could find "A permitted round bladed butter knife has no serrated edges." They should probably clarify that in that link.

    Personally I would have never tried to walk on a plane with that silverware. I know what the outcome would be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ruthabagah View Post
    Are you sure it was their finger they stuck in there?

    I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't only fingers.

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