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    They'll just use this extra money to refund the general tax fund so they can pay for some other bullshit that none of us want. Just like they will do with Amendment 66. What's go for the stoner is what's good for the children I guess?
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    Dude, what?

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    I am against any kind of tax increase.
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    What I was trying to say, is that any time we vote to give the government more money in one area, that lessens the burden from the general fund, allowing them to start a new avenue of dependence some where else. Then in a few years, we'll all be voting to increase taxes for that cause in the same way. Opening up the door for more taxes, no matter whom it hurts, is stupid and should be avoided.
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    California (san francisco) is trying to pass a sugar tax as we speak, give em an inch and next thing ya know they are a ruler. Where in the hell does this stop, maybe when you are forced to accept government handouts because your high paying job isn't enough to pay your bills because of to many taxes. I vote no on any tax increase of any kind at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    What I was trying to say, is that any time we vote to give the government more money in one area, that lessens the burden from the general fund, allowing them to start a new avenue of dependence some where else. Then in a few years, we'll all be voting to increase taxes for that cause in the same way. Opening up the door for more taxes, no matter whom it hurts, is stupid and should be avoided.
    I don't for a moment believe that defeating a thousand tax increase initiatives at the polls will teach any politician in Denver any sort of lesson. In the minds of most Democrat (and quite a few Republican) politicians is the absolute belief that all wealth and property is rightfully the property of the state and the fact that the people "are allowed" to keep even a penny of The State's money is a gross injustice that must be rectified.

    On principal I agree that we should stop feeding the beast ... that's why I said this is the first time I've voted for a reason other than ideology or tactics. But in the last few years the leftists in this state have been slowly eroding my personal liberty and wealth, so in this one case I'm going to spit in the eye of the leftists.

    As for the whole "give 'em an inch they'll take a mile" thinking ... history has proved that when it comes to taxes and Democrats they will demand the whole ruler whether you give them any inches or not.
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    Typically I'm opposed to any new taxes but frankly the people that are going to be most adversely affected by this tax are by and large my enemies ... while I acknowledge there are a handful of conservative and libertarian folk out there that smoke weed (or like me have no problem with it being legal even though we don't use it) but the vast majority of pot users are hardcore Democrats (and other assorted leftists) that are actively engaged in trying to take away my first and second amendment rights along with trying to eliminate free market capitalism so to hell with them.

    I'm voting for AA purely out of spite and hate.
    I'm voting for this rediculous tax purely to spit in the eye of pothead leftists that are ruining this beautiful state (and will if unchecked force me to leave it).
    I am voting for AA simply to make the lives of people I hate just slightly less fulfilling than they would otherwise be.

    I am voting for AA because for moral and legal reasons I can't simply shoot the fuckers, burn down their homes and piss on their graves.

    This will be two firsts for me, it'll be the first time I've voted for a tax increase and the first time I've voted for reasons that were not either ideological or tactical.
    Replace "weed" with "guns and ammunition" and "potheads" with "gun nuts" you have a Democrat/Liberal/Communist rant. A 30% surtax on guns, ammo, and reloading components? I could see the Dems proposing that. And we'd be crying "FOUL" before the ballots were printed. NO. No new taxes. No new spending. Just NO!
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    If you defeat every tax bill they will just find another way of getting their money, just like with the 30 dollar fee for your vehicle registration. Not a huge deal for someone who registers a 50 thousand dollar bmw, but for my motorcycles is more than doubled it.

    That doesnt mean that you should vote for them just because they will get their money anyway.

    It will likely just revert back to the old way of getting your weed, on the street. Except there will be no way for the state to track it and tell whether taxes were paid on it.

    Personally have never understood the draw of smoking, drinking, etc. To me they are just ways of fooling yourself that you are better and happier. I cant think of any real tangible way that they have improved society and our country and the human race as a whole. But it is your life, you have to pay to play.

    The funny thing is that everyone knew that if it was made legal they would tax the hell out of it, They told you straight up that was what was going to happen, and they still voted to make it legal and are then surprised when they actually followed through. It would be like buying a car with you knew had a blown engine and then being surprised that you were not able to drive it home. That is what happens when you go for instant gratification and dont think it through.
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    It's not about teaching a lesson, it's about saying "no" when asked. If you refuse a vehicle search, you don't do so to teach the officer a lesson, you do it to protect your rights. You might as well vote yes on 66 as well since that will also hurt your enemies through increased taxation. It's the same thing. Don't let yout emotions get in the way.
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    I have a different perspective- and while I know many of you will disagree with this, you have that right. While I'm no fan of pot heads- nor am I a fan of their majority being of a certain political persuasion- the thing I am more reluctant about is not more taxes in other areas, or giving politicians more room to tax more, or even the correlation between us and them, no, my reservations to oppose this is the fact that we are starting to become the pot state. Pot is legal here now, and as a result, all the little dope smoking hippies will flock here like it's the American Amsterdam. Some say we should embrace this, but I say no. If we "tax the everloving hell" out of pot, maybe that will help to lessen the amount of potheads that migrate here- and every little bit helps. Granted, us and WA are the start, and I'd expect the rest of the nation to follow suit at one point or another (eventually), but in the mean time, us being among the first to do so, I'd rather not be the "Pot Mecca." Wyoming sure is looking nice...
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