Fun With Bicycles

[Ronin13]

So are you advocating spending tax money to put a bike lane on all roads now? Are you willing to raise taxes to pay for that? If not, learn to share...

nynco-m-poop: refer to this please:

Roads are built for the purpose of transportation, and are built with taxes paid on vehicle registrations and fuel. Cyclists don't pay any of these fees. They are not required to have a license, and they do not follow traffic laws. They use the road for recreation at everyone's risk. I can't set up a hockey goal or a basketball hoop in the middle of the highway and expect to be safe and protected by law. Other than cycling, recreation on the highway is not permitted.

Yetti is 100% correct and I didn't even realize that. Sure you pay sales tax when you buy your huffy (or whatever cyclists ride these days, haven't put my ass in that saddle for over 10 years), but fuel and DMV Registration goes almost exclusively to federal, state, county and city roads and maintenance.

That kind of shit makes me appreciate those that are nice and use the side of the road mainly because they don't have to and they are just being nice by doing it.

Actually on HWY 66 (Squaw Pass Road) between Evergreen and Idaho Springs there are signs that show a car next to a bike and say share the road and others that ask cyclists to ride single file, and I know a couple of Clear Creek County Deputies who have stopped cyclists to give them warnings (because an actual citation with a fine would have been a big dick move) and kinda look out for them stating the dangers that come with riding on a widely used and narrow with large drop offs road. So no, they technically don't have to, but I know too many guys up here in the mountains that would be a bit more than peeved if they had to pull spandex clad remains out of the grilles of their trucks (and we're not talking your dad's old Cummins, we're talking big Mack dump trucks and end dumps).

[Robby30-06]

Obviously i am now working on a turret mount for my road bike. And no I'm not a tree hugging hippie. OK, some cyclists are arrogant a-holes who could use a lesson but most don't deserve this immature bullshit!!

[blackford76]

So are you advocating spending tax money to put a bike lane on all roads now? Are you willing to raise taxes to pay for that? If not, learn to share...

I DO pay extra...fuel tax and registration fees. As a kid I rode my bike everywhere, I still ride with my kids, and up here with all the blind corners and narrow shoulders, we get as far over as possible, and stop to allow cars to go by. Laws, regulations and all the other crap that you think protects you will not be worth shit in a car/truck vs. bicycle accident.

[nynco]

Most all bike riders drive cars and pay those taxes too. So the part about not paying taxes is not really a good line of thinking. Further bikes don't really damage roads like a Semi will.

Either way.... check this out.

Frustrated Lithuanian Mayor Boards Tank, Crushes Car to Send Pro-Bike Message
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/08...-send-message/

Ronin, I would also appreciate if you don't call me nynco-m-poop. I don't run around making childish jokes about your screen name and I pretty much give you respect always. So keep it above board. Respect man

[mcantar18c]

Most all bike riders drive cars and pay those taxes too. So the part about not paying taxes is not really a good line of thinking. Further bikes don't really damage roads like a Semi will.

Bicycles also don't keep your grocery stores stocked and your gas station from going dry. Truck drivers/companies should be exempt from taxes IMO.

[nynco]

Bicycles also don't keep your grocery stores stocked and your gas station from going dry. Truck drivers/companies should be exempt from taxes IMO.

Trucks tear up the road. Why should only cars pay? Everyone pays based on fuel consumption. Bigger uses more and beats the road harder. Sorry bad reasoning to me.

[mcantar18c]

Trucks tear up the road. Why should only cars pay? Everyone pays based on fuel consumption. Bigger uses more and beats the road harder. Sorry bad reasoning to me.

Are you not reading? Which part of this doesn't make sense?

Bicycles also don't keep your grocery stores stocked and your gas station from going dry. Truck drivers/companies should be exempt from taxes IMO.

Unless you want to go out and hunt all of your meat yourself, raise cattle for your burgers and milk, raise chickens for your drumsticks and eggs, and grow your own corn/wheat/rice/tobacco/etc.... you rely on trucks and the guys (and gals) who drive em to get you what you need. They contribute immensely to society, at the cost of a bit more wear and tear on the roads than your standard vehicle. Cars also wear the roads down, however they don't contribute to the well-being of society in doing so, so yes they should pay taxes to maintain them.

[nynco]

Sorry, I don't agree. Ironically, I bet you argue for a flat tax over a progressive tax rate too. Am I correct?

[blackford76]

Um...what does this have to do with the OP?
While we are de-railed, can you name 5 things you use every day that weren't delivered by a truck?

[mcantar18c]

Correct. A flat tax rate across all income groups or levels whatever you'd like to call them is a much better system than the BS we have now where the wealthy carry the country and the turds on welfare suck the life out of the system.
And before you ask, I'm on the low end of the spectrum. I've been unemployed for the last 9 months and didn't try to get welfare or food stamps or unemployment or anything like that, instead I spent my time and energy looking for a decent job and working odd jobs to be able to eat and pay bills. An old .22 was my means of food for a couple weeks there. I just got a job last week that pays $8 an hour, which is bullshit for someone with the experience, work ethic, and skill set that I have but this is what it's come to. Too bad the military doesn't start paying till after you ship out. Point is though, I'm not annoyed about the wealthy paying more taxes than the rest of us because I am one.