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    Quote Originally Posted by Rucker61 View Post
    Any engineers here? The Ft Leonard Wood chamber was infamous for the tree right outside the exit door. CS and a concussion for the same price.
    I did not hit the tree thank you very much but I do remember that being late aug I was reminded of the gas the rest of the day. Mix in a little sweat and it was a great time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rucker61 View Post
    Any engineers here? The Ft Leonard Wood chamber was infamous for the tree right outside the exit door. CS and a concussion for the same price.
    Not an engineer, but I know what tree you're talking about... FLW was ultimate suck for me, we got rain that day, granted it was only a light rain but still moisture and CS mix is no bueno!
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    Ft Jackson - I think they must put trees outside every one. Much worse were the DI making sure everyone was suffering or they had to go back through (not me).
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    Thought instead of creating a new thread I'd post it up here since it is on topic:

    Christian "Bruce Wayne/Batman" Bale himself visited the victims at the Medical Center of Aurora today... what a great guy! I half expected this to happen, but now, well good on him! I have a ton more respect for him now!
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    ^^ yeah very cool..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    Thought instead of creating a new thread I'd post it up here since it is on topic:

    Christian "Bruce Wayne/Batman" Bale himself visited the victims at the Medical Center of Aurora today... what a great guy! I half expected this to happen, but now, well good on him! I have a ton more respect for him now!
    If he wasn't in full costume then I would have kicked him out!

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    Very cool! I have a lot of respect for people who show compassion for human life. I saw the facebook posts calling for him to visit, but I thought it would just be a facebook fad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rucker61 View Post
    Any engineers here? The Ft Leonard Wood chamber was infamous for the tree right outside the exit door. CS and a concussion for the same price.

    fond memories

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    Quote Originally Posted by kanekutter05 View Post
    If he wasn't in full costume then I would have kicked him out!
    There was much talk of that on FB. I think it would be in bad taste and show poor judgement for him to show up in costume given the circumstances and how the nutcase shooter was dressed.

    If someone had been injured in a non-traumatic, mass killing event, it might be appropriate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dwalker460 View Post
    Are we even certian it was tear gasor smoke canisters? Has there been a statement made by officials? because I have seen references to both.
    Maybe I missed something but I haven't heard a single eyewitness say anything about "burning eyes", "hard to breath" or "tears" ...makes me think it was smoke. In fact, many of the witnesses have said "smoke". I suppose both can compromise your ability to fight back.

    However, in this situation (or theoretical situations like this one) I would think that at some point during the madness and in the large crowds, the bad guy must have had his back to a good guy within arms reach. Even without a CCW, a person within arms reach at the bad guy's back could be very effective at fighting a shooter...especially one with a long gun.

    In this real situation I wasn't there and can't ever say what I would do. There have been many stories of people helping other people and I applaud those that did help.

    I am very impressed with the police and first responders. Their amazing quick response and the professional, effective communication I have heard from the radio transmissions was truly top notch.

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