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    It's nice to know that if you wanted to build an "ammo bunker" basically all you need is two layers of 5/8" sheetrock to contain projectiles ( tho in most cases 1 would do .. the second is the backup)

    I knew that they would not shoot of like inside of a chamber of a weapon but I didn't think they would still be so weak as to not even punch thru bunker gear at 15 feet.

    Really makes me feel better living in an apartment knowing that it's rather unlikey to harm others. now I can up my ammo supply here

    I wonder if the ammo is stored in a " standard" ammo can and subjected to fire what would happen ?

    Would the contained primer ignitions just blow the seals out on the ammo or would it blow a hole in the side ? ( would the mythbusters take this on to test?)

    As to the loaded weapon and cook off.. the first warning in the video says it will fire as if you pulled the trigger. I don't think many of us keep more then one or two loaded and ready so the safety is a factor but I think that the ammo in the mag would cook off first ( the chamber providing a bit insulation to slow down the cook off) preventing the weapon from cycling (in an semi/full auto I suppose a revolver has X number of chambers but only one barrel could make for an interesting test .. what abotu the other X number of chambers not inline with the barrel at that moment) so that only one round would be a danger ( per weapon). I'm ok with one round being a danger compared to a couple thousand rounds in storage ( pretty good odds I say)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim View Post
    It happens that quick. Each to his or her own, me they are loaded. I do not need to justify my actions to you or anyone else. You prefer unloaded good for you.
    FWIW: i also carry hot too.
    Count me in as an idiot! locked and loaded through out the house. I have an 18 yo. although he has more guns than some adults I know. NO Worries!

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    I would like to see that done with powders in different sized units, 1#,4# and 8#, stored in the open on shelving and in different containers from ammo cans to locking cabinets.

    And yes, I cried watching all that ammunition being destroyed.
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    sadly all my ammo is at the bottom of that crazy gun eating lake

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    Had a neighbor's house burn down a few years back. I helped the VFD run hose. We dodged a lot of .45acp casings that were flying through the air. Some went 30'.
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    I guess that I'm an idiot too!! Having a readily available firearm unloaded is like installing a screen-door on a submarine...it just doesn't make sense!!

    BTW I'm weeping about all of the 400,000 rounds that were use during the test. They should've gave it all to me.
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    To start off, I watched the entire video and tried counting the rounds they destroyed, but then got too sad so I stopped. Very informative video and definitely worth the 25min to watch it.

    Not sure why we're counting idiots here. I think the risk of a fire is less than the risk of someone breaking into the house while I'm there. If everyone is worried about the firearm shooting the chambered cartridge, why not just mount/store the loaded firearm pointing in a safe direction. After all, that is one of the firearm laws (always keep it pointed in a safe direction)...

    Better yet, why not just get a revolver and keep an empty cylinder over the barrel. In self-defense, pulling the trigger in DA mode would advance the cartridge and fire it. Although with that line of thought, the rounds in a revolver are constricted by the cylinder and could therefore go off, not necessarily shooting down the barrel, but they would destroy the revolver in the process. So maybe a revolver isn't a good idea.

    I keep my bedside pistol mounted in a CQC holster that I have rigged to hang off the side of my nightstand, pointing downwards. If my house caught fire and it discharged, it would shoot into the concrete slab, I guess risking a ricochet, but thats better than it resting on a table and shooting off in a random direction, possibly through the house.

    Perhaps I'm totally missing the point of what people are talking about, and if so feel free to enlighten me.

    eta: I did forward this to my sister who is a Paramedic Firefighter. Not sure if she's aware of the truth behind this or not, but its a commonly believed myth by the vast majority of people (or so it seems).
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuffCyclist View Post
    Not sure why we're counting idiots here. I think the risk of a fire is less than the risk of someone breaking into the house while I'm there. If everyone is worried about the firearm shooting the chambered cartridge, why not just mount/store the loaded firearm pointing in a safe direction. After all, that is one of the firearm laws (always keep it pointed in a safe direction)...

    Better yet, why not just get a revolver and keep an empty cylinder over the barrel. In self-defense, pulling the trigger in DA mode would advance the cartridge and fire it. Although with that line of thought, the rounds in a revolver are constricted by the cylinder and could therefore go off, not necessarily shooting down the barrel, but they would destroy the revolver in the process. So maybe a revolver isn't a good idea.

    I keep my bedside pistol mounted in a CQC holster that I have rigged to hang off the side of my nightstand, pointing downwards. If my house caught fire and it discharged, it would shoot into the concrete slab, I guess risking a ricochet, but thats better than it resting on a table and shooting off in a random direction, possibly through the house.

    Perhaps I'm totally missing the point of what people are talking about, and if so feel free to enlighten me.

    eta: I did forward this to my sister who is a Paramedic Firefighter. Not sure if she's aware of the truth behind this or not, but its a commonly believed myth by the vast majority of people (or so it seems).
    Yes & No. I replied in my normal congenial & courteous way to this sentence by another member (Flatline) You will also see i said i choose to keep one loaded, a personal choice. Not one that is or should be gospel for gun owners (loosely interpreted)
    And some idiot may have left ammo in a gun's chamber, which would be deadly if it gets cooked off by a fire.

    To date i have and never will understand WHY IF you own a gun for PP / defensive tool you would not have one in the chamber. His sentence could have been worded differently to something like IF you had a loaded gun AND there was a fire it might become deadly, instead of SOME IDIOT.
    Obviously other posted agree with this IDIOT(me), that they too keep a loaded gun in the home. The up side to all this is no one has (yet) stooped low and started name calling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ah Pook View Post
    Had a neighbor's house burn down a few years back. I helped the VFD run hose. We dodged a lot of .45acp casings that were flying through the air. Some went 30'.
    Exactly. I'm surprised no one has mentioned the fact that the casings, being much lighter than the actual bullets, would be what becomes the projectile in this situation. When a primer ignites on an unencumbered round, the actual bullet will move a heck of a lot less than the brass will, simply based on weight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuffCyclist View Post
    Not sure why we're counting idiots here. I think the risk of a fire is less than the risk of someone breaking into the house while I'm there. If everyone is worried about the firearm shooting the chambered cartridge, why not just mount/store the loaded firearm pointing in a safe direction. After all, that is one of the firearm laws (always keep it pointed in a safe direction)...

    Better yet, why not just get a revolver and keep an empty cylinder over the barrel. In self-defense, pulling the trigger in DA mode would advance the cartridge and fire it. Although with that line of thought, the rounds in a revolver are constricted by the cylinder and could therefore go off, not necessarily shooting down the barrel, but they would destroy the revolver in the process. So maybe a revolver isn't a good idea.

    I keep my bedside pistol mounted in a CQC holster that I have rigged to hang off the side of my nightstand, pointing downwards. If my house caught fire and it discharged, it would shoot into the concrete slab, I guess risking a ricochet, but thats better than it resting on a table and shooting off in a random direction, possibly through the house.

    Perhaps I'm totally missing the point of what people are talking about, and if so feel free to enlighten me.

    eta: I did forward this to my sister who is a Paramedic Firefighter. Not sure if she's aware of the truth behind this or not, but its a commonly believed myth by the vast majority of people (or so it seems).
    I keep some firearms in strategic places for our protection. They are loaded and ready to go in case of a house invasion. Just in case that you weren't tracking, during the 2 wars that we were fighting in Iraq and Asscrackistan many undesirables were able to join in, get the training, and get out (trust me, I was a Drill Sergeant during those times). Now those same undesirables have the skills to enter a house and clear it with the same speed as our troops.

    Now the question is, do you want to be a victim? If not, keep your firearms loaded and within arms reach and when you carry, carry on red!!

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