Cruz, Rubio, and Jindal are all ineligible to be President - Not Natural Born Citizens of the US

[davsel]

https://pjmedia.com/election/2016/02...-seven-states/

Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz is facing challenges to his appearance on primary ballots in at least seven states, as some are questioning whether he is a "natural-born citizen."So-called "birther" challengers have filed federal lawsuits in Alabama, Utah and Texas and have filed lawsuits in state court in Vermont and Illinois, where a judge today ordered a hearing for March 1, two weeks before the Illinois primary. The filing dates vary with each lawsuit.

A challenge had been filed in the state election division of Indiana that was denied today.

And in court papers filed by two voters in New York state court this week, a complaint argues that Cruz should be struck from that state’s primary ballot because he “is not a natural born citizen of the United States.”

The plaintiffs, Barry Korman, 81, of Manhattan and William Gallo, 85, of Long Island, channel an argument made on the campaign trail by Donald Trump, who said as recently as Monday that Cruz “doesn’t have the right to serve as president, or even run as president. He was born in Canada.”

[davsel]

Karl Denniger's thoughts on Rubio:

When the establishment wing of a political party has turned to a man who is facially not a "naturally-born" citizen and is thus facially ineligible to be President, as neither of his parents were citizens at the time of his birth, you know they're both desperate and screwed.

[davsel]

Hard to believe there's not something there.
Now Cruz wants to postpone any decision concerning his eligibility until after the election, and let Congress decide?
Why not just throw out your CRBA form and call it all off. It would be a major slam against those who question his "natural born" status - especially Trump.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/ar...ther-challenge

Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz asked a federal judge in Texas to throw out a challenge to his eligibility to serve if he wins...

Cruz’s lawyer said challenges to a candidate’s eligibility are premature during the primary-voting season and must wait until he’s actually elected president, when that question should be resolved by the electoral college and Congress, “not this court.”
A court ruling on a candidate’s eligibility to serve before a national election “would inappropriately interfere with the electoral college’s constitutional authority to elect the president and to evaluate the qualifications of the candidates seeking that office,” Kruse said. If the electoral college finds the elected candidate is disqualified, the Constitution says Congress -- specifically the House of Representatives -- will choose the president.

[Great-Kazoo]

Karl Denniger's thoughts on Rubio:

The R party is Screwed. Majorly.............. Like the spouse said. Does anyone really believe trump isn't going to reverse every position he ran on if elected? We know he's not 2A friendly,nothing but a NYC moderate like doomberg. Once he gets the power changes things to suit his needs.
Either way the R party flushed this election down the shitter, AGAIN!

[Aloha_Shooter]

I find it funny that so many people who supposedly mourned the loss of Judge Scalia a week ago take so many pains to avoid the textualist approach in order to try to manufacture reasons to declare Rubio or Cruz ineligible. They are natural-born citizens by the original intent of the people who wrote Constitution and the laws of 1790 and 1795 as well as the 14th Amendment. I have no damned idea what Denninger means by "facially" and don't really care.

[davsel]

I find it funny that many of the same people who questioned Obama's eligibility, now want everyone to just keep quiet about their favorite candidate's eligibility.
I don't care who it is in question. If they're ineligible, then they're ineligible. The acts/amendments in question need to be ruled on by the SCOTUS.
I believe an anchor baby (Rubio) and a man who was a Canadian citizen until 2014 (Cruz) are questionable candidates in need of a ruling.

There are plenty of Constitutional scholars who do not believe anchor babies should be granted citizenship, much less "natural born" citizenship. There is no question that anchor babies are "naturalized" citizens and therefore ineligible (Rubio).

The main problem with Cruz is whether or not his mother renounced her US Citizenship before his birth. If so, Cruz is definitely ineligible. If not, he needs to produce his CRBA form - which he has yet to do. However, the CRBA form would prove Cruz is a "naturalized" citizen and therefore ineligible.

Just because you like him does not mean we should ignore the law - which is precisely what the Dems got away with in 2008.


ETA: I also have no idea what Denniger means by "facially." I'd guess "factually," but he used it twice.

[hollohas]

Either way the R party flushed this election down the shitter, AGAIN!

Which sucks even more because minus Trump, I think we had the best group of candidates we've seen in decades.

[68Charger]

Just because you like him does not mean we should ignore the law - which is precisely what the Dems got away with in 2008.


ETA: I also have no idea what Denniger means by "facially." I'd guess "factually," but he used it twice.

Like it or not, that's called 'precident'

And I think what he means by "facially" is literally "on it's face" (face value). But I don't like the term either.

[Great-Kazoo]

Which sucks even more because minus Trump, I think we had the best group of candidates we've seen in decades.

The R party has been nothing but self destructive this cycle. There's a clear and present danger from the other side of the aisle. What does everyone in the R party do?? ATTACK EACH OTHER. Not one of those who dropped out has said they will throw their support behind candidate X, Not One.

[Irving]

I don't really like Trump, but after years of complaining about the establishment GOP and the two party system in general, I've come to the realization that this is what that change will look like. As long as the major parties still get their way, nothing will change, ever. But when people stop buying your product, you either change to fit your market or go down in flames. Interesting years ahead.