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clublights
02-12-2013, 18:28
Havent you caught on yet, facts do not matter.


Yeah I know... but I still can throw a temper fit over it .

blacklabel
02-12-2013, 18:29
Golden PD Cheif=fail

He locked up tight when asked what capacity magazines his department trains with.

Now a rep. is trying to say that changing a magazine "in a matter of seconds" is highly specialized training.

mahabali
02-12-2013, 18:29
Salazar calling them clips, "not many people can change clips in seconds" "might take them a while"

Fmedges
02-12-2013, 18:30
What an idiot the previous guy said he learned how to do mag changes on youtube.

lowbeyond
02-12-2013, 18:30
salazr: not many people outside those who have police or .mil training can change mags in seconds.

[facepalm]

MarkCO
02-12-2013, 18:31
Kilpatrick, come to a match, I'll bet you a months pay you can't do a 1 second reload.

mahabali
02-12-2013, 18:33
Why cant these dumbfucks understand that criminals dont follow laws!!!?!?!?

lowbeyond
02-12-2013, 18:33
this guy is the police chief from Golden? Mother of God. What a moron.

blacklabel
02-12-2013, 18:34
Why cant these dumbfucks understand that criminals dont follow laws!!!?!?!?

But if they ban them then they'll all simply vaporize.

DavieD55
02-12-2013, 18:34
It will be a joy when this comes around to bite them in the a$$.

lowbeyond
02-12-2013, 18:35
auroa shooter had 6000 rounds of ammo ? holy crap that is heavy

Cthulhu
02-12-2013, 18:35
Aurora shooter had more than 6K rounds?!?

John123
02-12-2013, 18:36
6000 rounds... humping that around.. wow [Bang]

BPTactical
02-12-2013, 18:36
Holmes had 6K rounds on him at Aurora?

He was a superhero............

Fmedges
02-12-2013, 18:36
Since killing people is illegal is doesn't ever happen no? This idiots relative was a soldier in the Navy?

buckeye4rnr
02-12-2013, 18:37
He locked up tight when asked what capacity magazines his department trains with.

Now a rep. is trying to say that changing a magazine "in a matter of seconds" is highly specialized training.

Not much of a surprise but he's a moron. I just tried it for the first time ever and on my 3rd time I was closing in on 2 seconds...

Fmedges
02-12-2013, 18:38
"I would assume that he has a high capacity magazine"? If he does it's illegal in CA. Way to prove against the bill idiot.

Cthulhu
02-12-2013, 18:40
"Every magazine change is an opportunity for a miss-feed." Tactical reloads...you're doing it wrong.

lowbeyond
02-12-2013, 18:40
fudd speaking now.

hunters against gun violence

weapons can fire 3.2k rounds in seconds? herp derp

who need them ?

terrorists
mass murders

Yoooos all Terrorists ! [Flower]

Cthulhu
02-12-2013, 18:41
Now they bring up Elmer Fudd.

Cthulhu
02-12-2013, 18:41
fudd speaking now.

hunters against gun violence

Ha! Beat me to it. Guy even sounds like Fudd.

DeusExMachina
02-12-2013, 18:41
This idiot hunter anti-gunner needs to pull himself together.

Fmedges
02-12-2013, 18:42
I wish my rifle could shoot 32,000 times a minute

John123
02-12-2013, 18:42
I hope all the hunters in his group are that old.

blacklabel
02-12-2013, 18:42
This idiot hunter anti-gunner needs to pull himself together.

He's not well practiced keeping his crap together when he's spouting trash.

DavieD55
02-12-2013, 18:42
30 round mags are designed to defend yourself from large numbers of people and the 2nd is not about hunting. [Rant2]

blacklabel
02-12-2013, 18:43
Ohh God, here comes Mauser again.

lowbeyond
02-12-2013, 18:44
I wish my rifle could shoot 32,000 times a minute

No you dont. You would be broke man. lol

DeusExMachina
02-12-2013, 18:44
Columbine had 10 round magazines. It was during the ban, and they had "legal" weapons.

Sir, you dishonor your son by telling lies.

Cthulhu
02-12-2013, 18:45
Now Colobine dad is talking...the first AWB did such a good job of preventing Columbine. Oh wait! He wants confiscation!!! LOL good luck with that buddy...[ROFL1]

DavieD55
02-12-2013, 18:47
Here comes another Expert. (Sarcasm)

Great-Kazoo
02-12-2013, 18:48
Columbine had 10 round magazines. It was during the ban, and they had "legal" weapons.

Sir, you dishonor your son by telling lies.

No one cares about honesty or FACTS. Only an agenda, which we know what that is.

DeusExMachina
02-12-2013, 18:48
Only the privileged should be able to use high capacity magazines!

Fmedges
02-12-2013, 18:48
This guy had to go seek a counselor because of shootings around the country. Jesus Christ I have never seen such a huge pussy.

clublights
02-12-2013, 18:49
Columbine had 10 round magazines. It was during the ban, and they had "legal" weapons.

Sir, you dishonor your son by telling lies.


I thought so too .. but I had to go look it up ....

from wiki:


On April 20, Harris was equipped with a 12-gauge Savage-Springfield 67H pump-action (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pump-action) shotgun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shotgun), (which he discharged a total of 25 times) and a Hi-Point 995 Carbine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hi-Point_995_Carbine)9 mm carbine with thirteen 10-round magazines, which he fired a total of 96 times.
Klebold was equipped with a 9 mm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9x19mm_Parabellum) Intratec (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intratec) TEC-9 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TEC-9) semi-automatic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semi-automatic_firearm) handgun with one 52-, one 32-, and one 28-round magazine and a 12-gauge Stevens (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savage_Arms) 311D double-barreled sawed-off shotgun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sawed-off_shotgun). Klebold primarily fired the TEC-9 handgun, for a total of 55 times.

John123
02-12-2013, 18:50
This guy had to go seek a counselor because of shootings around the country. Jesus Christ I have never seen such a huge pussy.


[ROFL2]

DeusExMachina
02-12-2013, 18:50
NICE, everyone seems to have left.

DavieD55
02-12-2013, 18:50
No one cares about honesty or FACTS. Only an agenda, which we know what that is.


+1^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Dingo
02-12-2013, 18:51
Not to be insensitive or unkind, but I sincerely hope with all of my heart that each and every one of these knock-kneed, pinko socialist, mother-raping, grandstanding sons of syphilitic whores, come down with a raging case of terminal cancer.

John123
02-12-2013, 18:52
This testimony is hard to stomach. I can see why they left.

lowbeyond
02-12-2013, 18:52
hi capacity ammunition !

ban it !

John123
02-12-2013, 18:52
Hi capacity ammunition. Jesus!!!

Slapps74
02-12-2013, 18:53
What a disappointment.

mahabali
02-12-2013, 18:54
Good lord. Representing the children.

mahabali
02-12-2013, 18:55
"Commandos running up and down the hall with AK-47s"

.455_Hunter
02-12-2013, 18:55
DP Blog says it looks like a lot of the folks who signed up to testify in favor of ban on 10+ round magazines have gone home.

Danimal
02-12-2013, 18:56
I want to punch that dick bag that is on now in the face.

vossman
02-12-2013, 18:56
WTF is this guy talking about?

mahabali
02-12-2013, 18:57
Finally, opponents are coming up.

lowbeyond
02-12-2013, 18:57
hes all like. blah blah blah ak 47. *pees himself* ban stuff ! yea!

mb504
02-12-2013, 19:02
Hi capacity ammunition. Jesus!!!

That one-ups Double Tap Ammo's product line!

blacklabel
02-12-2013, 19:04
That one-ups Double Tap Ammo's product line!

Our bullets have bullets.

mb504
02-12-2013, 19:06
Our bullets have bullets.

Don't tell them about that new technology called a shotgun or a blunderbuss.

lowbeyond
02-12-2013, 19:09
This guy had to go seek a counselor because of shootings around the country. Jesus Christ I have never seen such a huge pussy.

[ROFL3]

mahabali
02-12-2013, 19:09
Magpul up now.

johngraves2
02-12-2013, 19:11
way to go Magpul!

lowbeyond
02-12-2013, 19:12
saying magpul dude is wrong

blacklabel
02-12-2013, 19:12
Supposedly Magpul would be able to continue manufacturing their magazines in Colorado.

merl
02-12-2013, 19:15
yes, by putting date of manufacture and a unique serial # on each one. which would do what to the cost?

strm_trpr
02-12-2013, 19:16
Way to go Gardner!

blacklabel
02-12-2013, 19:16
I wish the representative from Magpul would tell them that regardless of the legality of continuing to manufacture in Colorado, they'd pull the business on principle.

lowbeyond
02-12-2013, 19:17
no exception fro foreign sales
no exception for magpul employees to possess

they can move tooling out of state very quickly. lol

go Magpul !

blacklabel
02-12-2013, 19:18
Gardner's line of questions is awesome.

motohooligan
02-12-2013, 19:18
Good on ya Gardner!!!

John123
02-12-2013, 19:22
400 million dollars out of the CO economy would be bad news.

lowbeyond
02-12-2013, 19:24
if they successfully get in a "manufacturer"exemption then the whole thing unravels...

[mop]

blacklabel
02-12-2013, 19:25
if they successfully get in a "manufacturer"exemption then the whole thing unravels...

[mop]

Again, the rep. from Magpul needs to tell them they'd pull the business regardless of an exemption for manufacturing.

lowbeyond
02-12-2013, 19:27
yes he should.

but guess what, you can be a "manufacture" of magazines too. heh [UZI]

blacklabel
02-12-2013, 19:27
yes he should.

but guess what, you can be a "manufacture" of magazines too. heh [UZI]

Haha, good point.

blacklabel
02-12-2013, 19:31
I love Magpul's products but with the way the discussion is going, I'm not seeing them as opposed to this as I would hope if they're able to receive a manufacturing exception as well as an exception to the requirement for a serial number.

lowbeyond
02-12-2013, 19:33
yep. that is the impression i am getting.

wonder what happens to all those fed ex/ups driers that deliver these mags?


eta. says they oppose the bill on principle. People not having standard mags "is a problem for us"

Kraven251
02-12-2013, 19:34
I'm now curious where that date is stamped.

mahabali
02-12-2013, 19:35
Here we go. Good work Magpul guy!

blacklabel
02-12-2013, 19:35
He finally comes out and says that they oppose the bill on principle but I don't see it having any teeth without a threat of lost tax revenue.

motohooligan
02-12-2013, 19:35
HE SAID IT!

motohooligan
02-12-2013, 19:38
Standard Capacity Magazines!

Kraven251
02-12-2013, 19:38
Standard Capacity Magazine! hell yeah, he didn't use their language. Rock On.

blacklabel
02-12-2013, 19:38
And he keeps referring to them as "standard capacity magazines". Love it.

lowbeyond
02-12-2013, 19:38
magpul understand the exceptions on manufacturing discussion. but re-state oppositions to prohibiting standard capacity mags. 30 rounds.

suck it salazr

ya'll at magpul had me worried for 20 sec or so. heh

lowbeyond
02-12-2013, 19:43
oh dude sais someone in last bill said if it says it saves one life its all worth it.

well here is am , im your one life. i need more then 10 rnds

haha..

vossman
02-12-2013, 19:44
Pompous Ass.

mahabali
02-12-2013, 19:44
This guy kicks ass!

asmo
02-12-2013, 19:44
Whoever this guy is (the one that got shot 5 times).. I like him.

blacklabel
02-12-2013, 19:46
This dude speaking is it, if they don't get his testimony then we're fucked and there's no other way around it.

Fmedges
02-12-2013, 19:46
good points

mahabali
02-12-2013, 19:47
Really?, where are these people?

clublights
02-12-2013, 19:48
dmn it now I wish I had gone to sign up .. I'd have stayed.... damn it .

Fmedges
02-12-2013, 19:48
Really?, where are these people? Apparently it's not that important. Geeze

asmo
02-12-2013, 19:49
Stuck in hotel with shitty Internet. Can't watch the live video and the audio is in and out really bad... Are none of these people actually there?

newracer
02-12-2013, 19:49
oh dude sais someone in last bill said if it says it saves one life its all worth it.

well here is am , im your one life. i need more then 10 rnds

haha..

I freaking loved it!!!!!!!!

mahabali
02-12-2013, 19:49
Finally someone is speaking. About 8 names he called were not there.

blacklabel
02-12-2013, 19:50
One gentleman was downstairs helping his children. 4 or 5 were nowhere to be found.

asmo
02-12-2013, 19:52
Did I just hear the demigod (Zak)?

asmo
02-12-2013, 19:55
Do not make legal arguments here... The bill authors have been told by their lawyers that all is well. Who are they going to believe - their $400/hr lawyer, or some guy off the street.

mb504
02-12-2013, 19:56
If a Rep is seating there eating, are they really paying attention?

asmo
02-12-2013, 19:57
Why didn't he talk about TBAC.. interesting?

newracer
02-12-2013, 19:57
Zak Smith well done!!!!

MarkCO
02-12-2013, 19:58
TB is a Wyoming company. Good job Zak.

lowbeyond
02-12-2013, 20:00
against all enemies foreign and domestic ...again.

blacklabel
02-12-2013, 20:02
Great argument about the need for civilians to possess magazines greater than that of the Golden Chief of Police who are not as "highly" trained as he is.

Fmedges
02-12-2013, 20:04
It doesn't sound like it is going to be too hard to get around these magazine restrictions

waxthis
02-12-2013, 20:04
Is this on dish?

blacklabel
02-12-2013, 20:06
Is this on dish?

No clue, I'm watching it on the Denver Post's website.

Kraven251
02-12-2013, 20:08
I do like Gardner and other than Parker's "High Capacity Magazine" comment, he is holding his own pretty well.

asmo
02-12-2013, 20:10
I am guessing the Gilpin County Sheriff has had a stoke in the past.

HoneyBadger
02-12-2013, 20:12
In regards to the universal background checks:


N6qzRDmkk0w

lowbeyond
02-12-2013, 20:12
justin smith sheriff from larimar county. FTMFW

Sharpienads
02-12-2013, 20:12
I am guessing the Gilpin County Sheriff has had a stoke in the past.

lol. Yeah, but he sounded pretty serious in his introduction.

Larimer County Sheriff is awesome.

asmo
02-12-2013, 20:12
"I am no different than these Citizens"

FUCK YES..

clublights
02-12-2013, 20:12
Clap for Justin Smith !!!!!

Kraven251
02-12-2013, 20:12
Wow, Justin Smith, he is pretty fucking awesome.

John123
02-12-2013, 20:13
Great Job Sheriff Smith!!!!!


I'm going to move to Larmier county just to vote for him!

Snowman78
02-12-2013, 20:13
+10000000000

MarkCO
02-12-2013, 20:13
Rock on Sheriff Smith!

Fmedges
02-12-2013, 20:14
"Lets pretend for a second that criminals would care about this law"

blacklabel
02-12-2013, 20:14
It's amazing seeing him advocate for us. God, he's nailing it. This is what we needed.

Sharpienads
02-12-2013, 20:15
Is it weird that I have a boner while listening to Sheriff Smith?

Sharpienads
02-12-2013, 20:17
Salazar is a fuckhead. (with all due respect)

Smith just schooled him on drum magazines.

Fmedges
02-12-2013, 20:17
A criminal with a rock hahahahahahahaha

blacklabel
02-12-2013, 20:17
He's owning Salazar right now.

John123
02-12-2013, 20:18
Salazar is a putz

asmo
02-12-2013, 20:18
A NON LAW ABIDING CITIZEN doesn't matter for this discussion as this is about LAW -- law is about law abiding citizens.

blacklabel
02-12-2013, 20:19
He just challenged them to a full confiscation if they truly believe that these magazines are so dangerous.

Sharpienads
02-12-2013, 20:19
He just told Salazar and the like to quit being a pussy and ban all guns since they're so dangerous

lowbeyond
02-12-2013, 20:19
haha. i challenge you to be bold. if you really think that its worht it to save one life then ban them all and confiscate.

rofl

Jmetz
02-12-2013, 20:20
A non law abiding citizen is gonna do what they want regardless! Hello?!?

blacklabel
02-12-2013, 20:20
He just stopped short of a Molon Labe moment.

Sharpienads
02-12-2013, 20:22
Cheese and fucking Rice I love this guy.

Snowman78
02-12-2013, 20:22
Smith is such a BAD ASS

Sharpienads
02-12-2013, 20:24
Smith is such a BAD ASS

Yup!

newracer
02-12-2013, 20:24
I couldn't be prouder to live in Larimer County right now!!!!!

waxthis
02-12-2013, 20:24
Live link?

asmo
02-12-2013, 20:24
Just sent Sheriff Smith a giant thank you email. I suggest you do the same: sheriff@co.larimer.co.us

Kraven251
02-12-2013, 20:25
He just stopped short of a Molon Labe moment.

No he made one, just subtle [Beer]

clublights
02-12-2013, 20:25
Live link?


Link at the top of the thread still works for me

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22572461/major-battle-over-gun-bills-set-tuesday-at

blacklabel
02-12-2013, 20:26
Live link?

First post in this thread.

bryjcom
02-12-2013, 20:26
Live link?

Denver post website

clworth22
02-12-2013, 20:26
How can I view this online?

blacklabel
02-12-2013, 20:26
How can I view this online?

The link is in the first post of this thread.

asmo
02-12-2013, 20:27
If you just want to listen (or need to -- no bandwidth -- like me): http://coloradoga.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?publish_id=5

Teufelhund
02-12-2013, 20:30
Just sent Sheriff Smith a giant thank you email. I suggest you do the same: sheriff@co.larimer.co.us




Here's his facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/SheriffJustinSmith?fref=ts) as well. He's been posting updates from his phone all day. I just sent him a thanks on there.

mountainjenny
02-12-2013, 20:30
Sheriff Smith!! [Love1] [Love4]

Sharpienads
02-12-2013, 20:30
Just sent Sheriff Smith a giant thank you email. I suggest you do the same: sheriff@co.larimer.co.us




Done.

motohooligan
02-12-2013, 20:30
If you just want to listen (or need to -- no bandwidth -- like me): http://coloradoga.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?publish_id=5

The DP stream is crap for me. I've switched to the audio only.

Fmedges
02-12-2013, 20:31
Just sent Sheriff Smith a giant thank you email. I suggest you do the same: sheriff@co.larimer.co.us


Done

Kraven251
02-12-2013, 20:31
If anything will honestly turn the tide with these hearings it is people like these sheriffs, the rep from magpul, and the really articulate business owners and citizens. The UBC was a hard fight, that had a predetermined outcome, I am not sure that this one is as predetermined.

These people give me hope, that these legislators will listen.

crashdown
02-12-2013, 20:31
Tried doing some research with no luck...
What is being proposed on the magazine ban? Most importantly the existing ones.

blacklabel
02-12-2013, 20:32
I hit him up on his Facebook page.

10mm-man
02-12-2013, 20:32
Thank you Sheriff's for representing the people! Good JOB!!

mahabali
02-12-2013, 20:34
Why wont someone mention that the criminals wont care or be following these mag bans?

blacklabel
02-12-2013, 20:35
Why wont someone mention that the criminals wont care or be following these mag bans?

Sheriff Smith referenced that at one point.

Teufelhund
02-12-2013, 20:36
Why wont someone mention that the criminals wont care or be following these mag bans?

Someone just did. Wow.

Sharpienads
02-12-2013, 20:36
Holy shit, Sam.

Fmedges
02-12-2013, 20:36
yes this guy has nailed it

mahabali
02-12-2013, 20:36
Finally!!

blacklabel
02-12-2013, 20:36
Someone just did. Wow.

Hell yeah he did. This dude isn't pussy footing around.

Sharpienads
02-12-2013, 20:37
Hell yeah he did. This dude isn't pussy footing around.

No, not at all.

Fmedges
02-12-2013, 20:38
This guy is awesome

Kraven251
02-12-2013, 20:40
He just respectfully gave them the finger, and it was glorious. Then proceeded to ask them to think, also respectfully giving them the finger metaphorically speaking of course.

ShipDate
02-12-2013, 20:40
And at the end of the day they are going to piss all over him.

Adawg38
02-12-2013, 20:40
I love our Sheriffs! They made great points. I really don't think the Anti's are gonna get this one.

Rucker61
02-12-2013, 20:40
How do you follow that?

blacklabel
02-12-2013, 20:42
How do you follow that?

Not very easily. This testimony has been much more impactful than the testimony during the review of the bill for UBC.

asmo
02-12-2013, 20:44
Listening to this -- and BO a the same time. Its amazing the difference in wording. Personal responsibility vs. what am I going to do for you.

mrghost
02-12-2013, 20:44
"trying to figure out the number of bullets needed in a magazine"

Trying to figure out the wrong thing, buddy.

trlcavscout
02-12-2013, 20:45
So when does registration start? Fuck colorado!

William
02-12-2013, 20:46
Yes! Too bad we do not have more like him... People got duped into voting for Dems over the last 10 years and I am afraid it will bite us all in the ass. Kind of pissed at the Republican party in general for letting this happen.
That and all the Californians moving here. They already effed up their own state and now they are effing up ours.

blacklabel
02-12-2013, 20:46
So when does registration start? Fuck colorado!

I actually have hope for the magazine capacity issue but think we're boned on the UBC issue.

asmo
02-12-2013, 20:47
By the way -- if any of you ever watched the TV show Supernatural - Joe Biden looks like a demon (black eyes).

lowspeed_highdrag
02-12-2013, 20:47
Mike McPeak NAILING it. The only one Ive heard so far to say the RIGHT points.

Sharpienads
02-12-2013, 20:48
I have a feeling McPeak is about to lay the smack down.

trlcavscout
02-12-2013, 20:48
I actually have hope for the magazine capacity issue but think we're boned on the UBC issue.

For ubc to work they will need a database of guns and owners so the mag capacity doesnt matter.

blacklabel
02-12-2013, 20:49
Michael Bane is coming up. This should be damn good.

Batteriesnare
02-12-2013, 20:49
Please keep the updates coming, I'm stuck in class as it were, and they are much appreciated by my classmates and I.

blacklabel
02-12-2013, 20:51
Bane is clarifying the reasoning behind calling a 30 round magazine "standard capacity".

blacklabel
02-12-2013, 20:52
The AR15 is the premier self-defense platform.

John123
02-12-2013, 20:52
Mr Bane did good!!!

blacklabel
02-12-2013, 20:53
Mr Bane did good!!!

He's a stand up dude and listens to great music. Check out his podcast when you get a chance.

Sharpienads
02-12-2013, 20:53
This guy is sooooo nervous

Adawg38
02-12-2013, 20:54
Man, can't get my feed to work. Sometimes it plays fine and then shit!

Sharpienads
02-12-2013, 20:55
Disregard.

HoneyBadger
02-12-2013, 20:56
Thanks for all the updates guys. I have a lot of hell breaking loose around the house right now and I can't watch/listen.

MarkCO
02-12-2013, 20:56
I'm of course doing Bane's new Versa-Max gratis. He spent all day Friday down there with us and all day today sitting down there. Deepest thanks!

motohooligan
02-12-2013, 20:56
Clip Clip Clip Clip Clip Clip Clip

blacklabel
02-12-2013, 20:57
Clip Clip Clip Clip Clip Clip Clip

Well spoken otherwise. I'll let it go this one time.

Fmedges
02-12-2013, 20:57
Clip Clip Clip Clip Clip Clip Clip

She's just talking so that they understand. If she said magazine they would all be confused as to what she is talking about.

Adawg38
02-12-2013, 20:58
Thanks for all the updates guys. I have a lot of hell breaking loose around the house right now and I can't watch/listen.


My wife keeps saying, can you turn it down? I says shut it woman! Yeah, that works.

Teufelhund
02-12-2013, 20:58
WTF is this chick talking about? This meeting is about magazine capacity, ma'am.

John123
02-12-2013, 21:00
Moving testimony!

Rucker61
02-12-2013, 21:02
My feed keeps going in and out. Has anyone pointed out that Eric Harris only had ten round magazines and a shotgun that held 5 rounds?

asmo
02-12-2013, 21:02
So the Brit sounds like he is on our side.. Or am I just dreaming?

blacklabel
02-12-2013, 21:03
So the Brit sounds like he is on our side.. Or am I just dreaming?

He's made references to being on the fence, primarily during Magpul's testimony.

blacklabel
02-12-2013, 21:04
My feed keeps going in and out. Has anyone pointed out that Eric Harris only had ten round magazines and a shotgun that held 5 rounds?

No but Tom Mauser lied and stated that they had magazines ranging from 20-30 rounds.

asmo
02-12-2013, 21:06
Wasn't Bert going to speak?

Sharpienads
02-12-2013, 21:07
Highfive!

Awesome.

Rucker61
02-12-2013, 21:07
No but Tom Mauser lied and stated that they had magazines ranging from 20-30 rounds.

Klebold had larger capacity magazines, but Harris killed the most with his 9mm carbine.

BPTactical
02-12-2013, 21:08
Wasn't Bert going to speak?
I am here waiting to speak if my name ever gets called.

clublights
02-12-2013, 21:09
No but Tom Mauser lied and stated that they had magazines ranging from 20-30 rounds.


Not true as I pointed out before From wiki



On April 20, Harris was equipped with a 12-gauge Savage-Springfield 67H pump-action (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pump-action) shotgun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shotgun), (which he discharged a total of 25 times) and a Hi-Point 995 Carbine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hi-Point_995_Carbine)9 mm carbine with thirteen 10-round magazines, which he fired a total of 96 times.
Klebold was equipped with a 9 mm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9x19mm_Parabellum) Intratec (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intratec) TEC-9 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TEC-9) semi-automatic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semi-automatic_firearm) handgun with one 52-, one 32-, and one 28-round magazine and a 12-gauge Stevens (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savage_Arms) 311D double-barreled sawed-off shotgun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sawed-off_shotgun). Klebold primarily fired the TEC-9 handgun, for a total of 55 times.

Sharpienads
02-12-2013, 21:09
I am here waiting to speak if my name ever gets called.

Can't wait!

clublights
02-12-2013, 21:09
I am here waiting to speak if my name ever gets called.


Hope you get up Bert!!!!!!!!!

asmo
02-12-2013, 21:10
BO talking about guns now.

blacklabel
02-12-2013, 21:10
Not true as I pointed out before From wiki

Ahh, thanks for the clarification. I should have vetted that before I regurgitated someone else's misinformation.

asmo
02-12-2013, 21:11
BO's wife sitting next to parents of 'victims of gun violence' -- meaning its important.

asmo
02-12-2013, 21:12
Holy shit.. BO has the entire chamber yelling an on their feet over gun violence..

Jmetz
02-12-2013, 21:12
I am here waiting to speak if my name ever gets called.

Good luck and thank you for taking the time.

lowbeyond
02-12-2013, 21:12
how epic wold it be if bert brought his sawzill and did some work on the table ? lol[Flower]

10mm-man
02-12-2013, 21:13
I am here waiting to speak if my name ever gets called.


Thanks for being there! Hang in there........

blacklabel
02-12-2013, 21:13
Holy shit.. BO has the entire chamber yelling an on their feet over gun violence..

Alright, I've got to see this.

10mm-man
02-12-2013, 21:13
how epic wold it be if bert brought his sawzill and did some work on the table ? lol[Flower]

If he doesn't have a hammer, what good is it?

sniper7
02-12-2013, 21:14
Holy shit.. BO has the entire chamber yelling an on their feet over gun violence..


just saw that. FUBHO

asmo
02-12-2013, 21:14
Did he just say if they people are signed up they will get a spot. Audio cut out.

asmo
02-12-2013, 21:16
Army wifes.... nummy..

I usually give 'em a couple of bucks when they are working..

Rucker61
02-12-2013, 21:17
I am here waiting to speak if my name ever gets called.

Can you point out that the average homicide rate by all rifles since the end of the assault weapons ban is down by 23% as compared to the average homicide rate by rifles during the ban, according to FBI data, and during that post-ban time over 2 million new ARs were sold, with an inestimable amount of 30 round magazines. The numbers suggest we're safer without any ban.

lowbeyond
02-12-2013, 21:19
oh no only 4-5 more. hope bert gets in

MarkCO
02-12-2013, 21:20
Oh no, this guy has his facts wrong and is not helping...

asmo
02-12-2013, 21:20
Finally.. Someone gets the whole hypocritical aspect of the Magpul thing.

blacklabel
02-12-2013, 21:21
I've got my fingers crossed for you Bert.

Sharpienads
02-12-2013, 21:23
Democrat talking. Says he disagrees with the ban. Citing Heller.

Fmedges
02-12-2013, 21:23
I like how he talked directly to the democrats on the committee.

Teufelhund
02-12-2013, 21:24
This dem is doing pretty well. This is my shocked face.

Rucker61
02-12-2013, 21:24
Democrat talking. Says he disagrees with the ban. Citing Heller.

That's telling them.

blacklabel
02-12-2013, 21:24
Asks them if they feel the bill is unconstitutional. None willing to answer.

Sharpienads
02-12-2013, 21:24
Just called out all the Dems on the committee. Siad you can't support the BoR and a magazine ban.

Rucker61
02-12-2013, 21:24
This dem is doing pretty well. This is my shocked face.

Yeah, attack the person, not the point.

Teufelhund
02-12-2013, 21:25
Yeah, attack the person, not the point.

I like his point. I'm just shocked a demorat would bring it up.

blacklabel
02-12-2013, 21:26
Called them out again. Said he's willing to be plaintiff on a suit. Wright states that he feels it isn't constitutional and calls out everyone else for not being willing to discuss this earlier.

John123
02-12-2013, 21:26
[M2] give it too them!



edit.



too early

sniper7
02-12-2013, 21:27
this fucking retard is saying now they can restrict 100 round mags...

Rucker61
02-12-2013, 21:27
[M2] give it too them!

Not so fast.

Sharpienads
02-12-2013, 21:27
And I just lost all respect for this guy

mahabali
02-12-2013, 21:28
And I just lost all respect for this guy

Yep

blacklabel
02-12-2013, 21:28
I lost my feed. What did he say?

mahabali
02-12-2013, 21:29
That it would be ok to ban 100 round drums.

lowbeyond
02-12-2013, 21:29
gah he just fuckked miller up

Sharpienads
02-12-2013, 21:30
Just told Kagen he'll vote against her next time if she votes yes on the magazine ban.

In a round about way.

mahabali
02-12-2013, 21:30
"I supported you, Kagan, in 2012, I hope to be able to support you in the next election" I liked that!

Teufelhund
02-12-2013, 21:30
Just told Kagen he'll vote against her next time if she votes yes on the magazine ban.

That was great. Drew a big "OOOOOOOoooo" from the crowd.

Sharpienads
02-12-2013, 21:31
Some dude just invited the members to the range. Awesome.

Kraven251
02-12-2013, 21:31
Damnit. Get Bert in, end it on someone intelligent.

clublights
02-12-2013, 21:31
That it would be ok to ban 100 round drums.

He said he believed that banning them would be legal under Heller. And with the way heller was worded.. I agree. 100 round drums are NOT in common use.

John123
02-12-2013, 21:31
No joke!

Teufelhund
02-12-2013, 21:33
Brit talking now, sobbing through a tear-jerking story about his buddy being killed because he didn't have the right to defend himself.

Rucker61
02-12-2013, 21:33
Boy, the ex-pats sure have been painting Old Blighty in a rosy way, what?

lowbeyond
02-12-2013, 21:33
He said he believed that banning them would be legal under Heller. And with the way heller was worded.. I agree. 100 round drums are NOT in common use.

yep. i agree.

sniper7
02-12-2013, 21:33
Justin Hayword? sounds familiar here!

Sharpienads
02-12-2013, 21:33
Call Burt!!!

Rucker61
02-12-2013, 21:34
Didn't Justin Hayward play guitar for the Moody Blues?

Sharpienads
02-12-2013, 21:35
Short and sweet

Kraven251
02-12-2013, 21:35
I am glad they are letting folks speak, but I wish the assclown contingent would have stayed at home.

sniper7
02-12-2013, 21:35
He said he believed that banning them would be legal under Heller. And with the way heller was worded.. I agree. 100 round drums are NOT in common use.

I'll call BS on this. Just look at how many have sold in the last few months.