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muddywings
02-15-2013, 12:15
Denver Post twitter is saying we are two votes shy of killing the bill. 3 Democrats are voting no.
I suspect Ed Vigil is one. Any names on the other two?
Madeinhb
02-15-2013, 12:15
Pro gun people making some excellent points.
mahabali
02-15-2013, 12:16
Pro gun people making some excellent points.
Yep, they did on Tuesday too and it did not matter.
newracer
02-15-2013, 12:16
I think during role call one D rep was not present.
I am going to send Gardner a mag.
Some of them may still be checking their email during the debate! See if you can maybe try and sway one or two more! Email them now!
john.buckner.house@state.co.us (john.buckner.house@state.co.us), perrybuck49@gmail.com (perrybuck49@gmail.com), kathleen.conti.house@state.co.us (kathleen.conti.house@state.co.us), don.coram.house@state.co.us (don.coram.house@state.co.us), lois.court.house@state.co.us (lois.court.house@state.co.us), brian@briandelgrosso.com (brian@briandelgrosso.com), tim.dore.house@state.co.us (tim.dore.house@state.co.us), crisanta.duran.house@state.co.us (crisanta.duran.house@state.co.us), justin.everett.house@state.co.us (justin.everett.house@state.co.us), thomas.exum.house@state.co.us (thomas.exum.house@state.co.us), mferrandino@yahoo.com (mferrandino@yahoo.com), rhonda.fields.house@state.co.us (rhonda.fields.house@state.co.us), randyfischer@frii.com (randyfischer@frii.com), mike.foote.house@state.co.us (mike.foote.house@state.co.us), leroy.garcia.house@state.co.us (leroy.garcia.house@state.co.us), bob.gardner.house@state.co.us (bob.gardner.house@state.co.us), cheri.gerou@gmail.com (cheri.gerou@gmail.com), joann.ginal.house@state.co.us (joann.ginal.house@state.co.us), millie.hamner.house@state.co.us (millie.hamner.house@state.co.us), chris.holbert.house@state.co.us (chris.holbert.house@state.co.us), dl.hullinghorst.house@state.co.us (dl.hullinghorst.house@state.co.us), rephumphrey48@yahoo.com (rephumphrey48@yahoo.com), janak.joshi.house@state.co.us (janak.joshi.house@state.co.us), repkagan@gmail.com (repkagan@gmail.com), reptracy29@gmail.com (reptracy29@gmail.com), jeanne.labuda.house@state.co.us (jeanne.labuda.house@state.co.us), lois.landgraf.house@state.co.us (lois.landgraf.house@state.co.us), polly.lawrence.house@state.co.us (polly.lawrence.house@state.co.us), steve.lebsock.house@state.co.us (steve.lebsock.house@state.co.us), pete.lee.house@state.co.us (pete.lee.house@state.co.us), claire.levy.house@state.co.us (claire.levy.house@state.co.us), jenise.may.house@state.co.us (jenise.may.house@state.co.us), beth.mccann.house@state.co.us (beth.mccann.house@state.co.us), mike.mclachlan.house@state.co.us (mike.mclachlan.house@state.co.us), jovan.melton.house@state.co.us (jovan.melton.house@state.co.us), diane.mitschbush.house@state.co.us (diane.mitschbush.house@state.co.us), dominick.moreno.house@state.co.us (dominick.moreno.house@state.co.us), murrayhouse45@gmail.com (murrayhouse45@gmail.com), clarice.navarro.house@state.co.us (clarice.navarro.house@state.co.us), dan.nordberg.house@state.co.us (dan.nordberg.house@state.co.us), dan.pabon.house@state.co.us (dan.pabon.house@state.co.us), cherylin.peniston.house@state.co.us (cherylin.peniston.house@state.co.us), brittany.pettersen.house@state.co.us (brittany.pettersen.house@state.co.us), dianne.primavera.house@state.co.us (dianne.primavera.house@state.co.us), kpriola@gmail.com (kpriola@gmail.com), bob.rankin.house@state.co.us (bob.rankin.house@state.co.us), paul.rosenthal.house@state.co.us (paul.rosenthal.house@state.co.us), su.ryden.house@state.co.us (su.ryden.house@state.co.us), lori.saine.house@state.co.us (lori.saine.house@state.co.us), joseph.salazar.house@state.co.us (joseph.salazar.house@state.co.us), sue.schafer.house@state.co.us (sue.schafer.house@state.co.us), ray.scott.house@state.co.us (ray.scott.house@state.co.us), jonathan.singer.house@state.co.us (jonathan.singer.house@state.co.us), jerry@repsonnenberg.com (jerry@repsonnenberg.com), amy.stephens.house@state.co.us (amy.stephens.house@state.co.us), spencer.swalm.house@state.co.us (spencer.swalm.house@state.co.us), libby.szabo.house@state.co.us (libby.szabo.house@state.co.us), max@maxtyler.us (max@maxtyler.us), edvigil1@gmail.com (edvigil1@gmail.com), mark.waller.house@state.co.us (mark.waller.house@state.co.us), angela.williams.house@state.co.us (angela.williams.house@state.co.us), james.wilson.house@state.co.us (james.wilson.house@state.co.us), jared.wright.house@state.co.us (jared.wright.house@state.co.us), dave.young.house@state.co.us (dave.young.house@state.co.us)
BPTactical
02-15-2013, 12:17
I get the feeling regardless if the bill passes or not, Magpul is out of here.
muddywings
02-15-2013, 12:19
Gardner is stating the obvious about how impossible enforcement is
Sharpienads
02-15-2013, 12:19
Gardner is making excellent points, but is kinda rambling.
mahabali
02-15-2013, 12:20
I get the feeling regardless if the bill passes or not, Magpul is out of here.
Yep, they said as much.
muddywings
02-15-2013, 12:20
Is Gardner going Molon Labe???
n8tive97
02-15-2013, 12:21
So we have a war on drugs for years and years and years, these same jack asses realize they can't stop it, so they legalize! Same with alcohol Don't they see the same thing happening here? errr never mind!
mahabali
02-15-2013, 12:21
Some of them may still be checking their email during the debate! See if you can maybe try and sway one or two more! Email them now!
Yet another round of emails sent.
lowbeyond
02-15-2013, 12:22
I get the feeling regardless if the bill passes or not, Magpul is out of here.
Really. They have to. If not this time, they will keep trying until it passes. Why would you expand in a State the publicly says the hate you and your product ?
That seems stupid.
Gardner is making awesome points!!
muddywings
02-15-2013, 12:24
I'm glad they put that oops amendment in there. I love the morality arguement. I hate people who are two-faced.
BPTactical
02-15-2013, 12:25
The "Moral" point is excellent.
Well she says this is about the Sandy Hook kids but its ok for Magpul to still make these mags and send them to CT cause we need to keep jobs in colorado for $$$$$
Winner winner!
Sharpienads
02-15-2013, 12:26
Gardner pointing out the hypocrisy of saying magazines are only designed to kill large amounts of women and children quickly, but it's ok to manufacture them here, just not allow them here. Good for him. He sounds tired. Probably from holding back the curse words.
Madeinhb
02-15-2013, 12:26
I get the feeling regardless if the bill passes or not, Magpul is out of here.
Yea. I moved out of California to come here to Colorado in 2009 to get away from liberals. Hate that it's happening here too now.
BPTactical
02-15-2013, 12:26
Hypocritical, jaded......that's gonna leave a mark!
Sharpienads
02-15-2013, 12:28
Hypocritical, jaded......that's gonna leave a mark!
I'm still mad that that British ass didn't recognize you the other day, Bert.
Sharpienads
02-15-2013, 12:29
Too bad it's too late to ask Rep Gardner to be my Valentine. He's awesome.
BPTactical
02-15-2013, 12:30
Oh lord, not her again.....
Aww shucks, she's offended........bitch, you offend the hell out of me....
lowbeyond
02-15-2013, 12:30
oh noez fields is insulted.
muddywings
02-15-2013, 12:30
be offended Fields you are now on mute
My blood pressure rises as Rep. Field talks.. mute is a must.
n8tive97
02-15-2013, 12:30
Fields has her panties in a bunch!!![ROFL2]
She worked on the bill? She didn't even know what it said a couple days ago.
mahabali
02-15-2013, 12:31
I cant listen to her. I'm taking a break and going for a run.
muddywings
02-15-2013, 12:32
Some of them may still be checking their email during the debate! See if you can maybe try and sway one or two more! Email them now!
john.buckner.house@state.co.us (john.buckner.house@state.co.us), perrybuck49@gmail.com (perrybuck49@gmail.com), kathleen.conti.house@state.co.us (kathleen.conti.house@state.co.us), don.coram.house@state.co.us (don.coram.house@state.co.us),lois.court.house@sta te.co.us (lois.court.house@state.co.us), brian@briandelgrosso.com (brian@briandelgrosso.com), tim.dore.house@state.co.us (tim.dore.house@state.co.us), crisanta.duran.house@state.co.us (crisanta.duran.house@state.co.us),justin.everett. house@state.co.us (justin.everett.house@state.co.us), thomas.exum.house@state.co.us (thomas.exum.house@state.co.us), mferrandino@yahoo.com (mferrandino@yahoo.com), rhonda.fields.house@state.co.us (rhonda.fields.house@state.co.us),randyfischer@fri i.com (randyfischer@frii.com), mike.foote.house@state.co.us (mike.foote.house@state.co.us), leroy.garcia.house@state.co.us (leroy.garcia.house@state.co.us), bob.gardner.house@state.co.us (bob.gardner.house@state.co.us),cheri.gerou@gmail. com (cheri.gerou@gmail.com), joann.ginal.house@state.co.us (joann.ginal.house@state.co.us), millie.hamner.house@state.co.us (millie.hamner.house@state.co.us), chris.holbert.house@state.co.us (chris.holbert.house@state.co.us),dl.hullinghorst. house@state.co.us (dl.hullinghorst.house@state.co.us), rephumphrey48@yahoo.com (rephumphrey48@yahoo.com), janak.joshi.house@state.co.us (janak.joshi.house@state.co.us), repkagan@gmail.com (repkagan@gmail.com),reptracy29@gmail.com (reptracy29@gmail.com), jeanne.labuda.house@state.co.us (jeanne.labuda.house@state.co.us), lois.landgraf.house@state.co.us (lois.landgraf.house@state.co.us), polly.lawrence.house@state.co.us (polly.lawrence.house@state.co.us),steve.lebsock.h ouse@state.co.us (steve.lebsock.house@state.co.us), pete.lee.house@state.co.us (pete.lee.house@state.co.us), claire.levy.house@state.co.us (claire.levy.house@state.co.us), jenise.may.house@state.co.us (jenise.may.house@state.co.us),beth.mccann.house@s tate.co.us (beth.mccann.house@state.co.us), mike.mclachlan.house@state.co.us (mike.mclachlan.house@state.co.us), jovan.melton.house@state.co.us (jovan.melton.house@state.co.us),diane.mitschbush. house@state.co.us (diane.mitschbush.house@state.co.us), dominick.moreno.house@state.co.us (dominick.moreno.house@state.co.us), murrayhouse45@gmail.com (murrayhouse45@gmail.com), clarice.navarro.house@state.co.us (clarice.navarro.house@state.co.us),dan.nordberg.h ouse@state.co.us (dan.nordberg.house@state.co.us), dan.pabon.house@state.co.us (dan.pabon.house@state.co.us), cherylin.peniston.house@state.co.us (cherylin.peniston.house@state.co.us),brittany.pet tersen.house@state.co.us (brittany.pettersen.house@state.co.us), dianne.primavera.house@state.co.us (dianne.primavera.house@state.co.us), kpriola@gmail.com (kpriola@gmail.com), bob.rankin.house@state.co.us (bob.rankin.house@state.co.us),paul.rosenthal.hous e@state.co.us (paul.rosenthal.house@state.co.us), su.ryden.house@state.co.us (su.ryden.house@state.co.us), lori.saine.house@state.co.us (lori.saine.house@state.co.us), joseph.salazar.house@state.co.us (joseph.salazar.house@state.co.us),sue.schafer.hou se@state.co.us (sue.schafer.house@state.co.us), ray.scott.house@state.co.us (ray.scott.house@state.co.us), jonathan.singer.house@state.co.us (jonathan.singer.house@state.co.us), jerry@repsonnenberg.com (jerry@repsonnenberg.com),amy.stephens.house@state .co.us (amy.stephens.house@state.co.us), spencer.swalm.house@state.co.us (spencer.swalm.house@state.co.us), libby.szabo.house@state.co.us (libby.szabo.house@state.co.us), max@maxtyler.us (max@maxtyler.us),edvigil1@gmail.com (edvigil1@gmail.com), mark.waller.house@state.co.us (mark.waller.house@state.co.us), angela.williams.house@state.co.us (angela.williams.house@state.co.us), james.wilson.house@state.co.us (james.wilson.house@state.co.us),jared.wright.hous e@state.co.us (jared.wright.house@state.co.us), dave.young.house@state.co.us (dave.young.house@state.co.us)
They are going on lunch. I'm sure they are sporting crackberrys and smart phones. Shoot out the emails ladies and gentlemen.
Keep them short, polite and to the point.
Katastrophic
02-15-2013, 12:32
She's out of her league.
BPTactical
02-15-2013, 12:32
Too bad it's too late to ask Rep Gardner to be my Valentine. He's awesome.
And that's not ghey how?????
mahabali
02-15-2013, 12:32
Ok she is done. I guess I will watch for a few more minutes.
lowbeyond
02-15-2013, 12:34
Hahha,
We've created the Ultimate Fireworks Stand! [ROFL3]
BPTactical
02-15-2013, 12:37
And Sonnenberg calls out the bullshit statistics!
Sharpienads
02-15-2013, 12:37
And that's not ghey how?????
I never said it wasn't geigh. I get a broner every time he talks. Especially when he puts Fields in her place.
WillysWagon
02-15-2013, 12:39
Gardner is making awesome points!!
This X a Billion !!!
Snowman78
02-15-2013, 12:39
Just looked up the numbers:
Colorado House of Representatives:
DEM 37
REP 28
Structure
Seats
65
Political groups
Democratic Party (http://www.ar-15.co/wiki/Colorado_Democratic_Party) (37)
Republican Party (http://www.ar-15.co/wiki/Colorado_Republican_Party) (28)
Length of term
2 years
Authority
Article V, Colorado Constitution (http://www.ar-15.co/wiki/Colorado_Constitution)
Salary
$30,000/year + per diem
Singlestack
02-15-2013, 12:42
Loved the accidental comment about banning "high capacity limosines"! Get those hummer limos out of state...!
That stupid amendment was so transparently an attempt to keep Magpul here, but was clumsy since Magpul already said that wouldn't make a difference - they are moving if 1224 passes...
Sharpienads
02-15-2013, 12:42
Just looked up the numbers:
Colorado House of Representatives:
DEM 37
REP 28
Structure
Seats
65
Political groups
Democratic Party (http://www.ar-15.co/wiki/Colorado_Democratic_Party) (37)
Republican Party (http://www.ar-15.co/wiki/Colorado_Republican_Party) (28)
Length of term
2 years
Authority
Article V, Colorado Constitution (http://www.ar-15.co/wiki/Colorado_Constitution)
Salary
$30,000/year + per diem
Yep. Need 5 rational Dems.
She checked her email! I sent out to the group just 15 minutes ago... "please remind the house that Virginia Tech and Columbine shooters all used 10-round magazines"
Keep emailing them... they are checking!!!
Madeinhb
02-15-2013, 12:43
And Sonnenberg calls out the bullshit statistics!
Very true. But liberals don't tend to think logically. Hopefully a few of them will see the light.
BPTactical
02-15-2013, 12:43
Current speaker is wiping the floor with Fields and her crap
Snowman78
02-15-2013, 12:44
I just sent a e-mail to them all
YES... antidepressants and the drugging of our youth! Awesome!
Katastrophic
02-15-2013, 12:45
I like this woman. I like that she was speaking on an emotional level for the bleeding hearts out there.
Sharpienads
02-15-2013, 12:46
Great, here comes fields again.
BPTactical
02-15-2013, 12:47
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
Fields is insane
https://www.facebook.com/representativerhonda.fields?fref=ts
Madeinhb
02-15-2013, 12:51
This lady is crazy
mahabali
02-15-2013, 12:52
https://www.facebook.com/representativerhonda.fields?fref=ts
Wow people are blowing up her Facebook.
Madeinhb
02-15-2013, 12:53
She doesn't get it. Denver will be the next Chicago.
Madeinhb
02-15-2013, 12:54
I can't believe she is really telling magpul to go ahead and leave.
lowbeyond
02-15-2013, 12:55
oh look a fudd writes in support of this bill.
shocking
I think I'm going to puke
Rucker61
02-15-2013, 12:56
I'm glad they put that oops amendment in there. I love the morality arguement. I hate people who are two-faced.
I can't wait until the bill for holding manufacturer's liable comes up. Anyone that voted for the Amendment to the magazine bill will have this tossed in their face.
Who the hell is that grey headed bag....She's just reading to read, she has no clue what she's saying.
Sharpienads
02-15-2013, 12:57
Just posted this on Field's facebook:
Rep Fields,
You are driven by emotion and fallacies. You continually lie while speaking to the House. You have no idea what you are talking about. You can't even get your verbiage correct. You have no idea what the difference between a clip and a magazine is. You are ignorant to the subject of which you are trying to legislate. Please sit down and quit speaking. For the children.
I got two likes in under a minute.
muddywings
02-15-2013, 12:57
I can't wait until the bill for holding manufacturer's liable comes up. Anyone that voted for the Amendment to the magazine bill will have this tossed in their face.
wow-forgot about that. excellent point
spittoon
02-15-2013, 12:57
She doesn't get it. Denver will be the next Chicago.
as just reported by fox news more gun laws do not work look at chicago
Singlestack
02-15-2013, 12:59
The dems are all about drumming up as much emotion as they can. Couldn't believe the last speaker reading a few letters from others who want to limit 2A rights. Republicans can do the same thing, but what does that prove??
StagLefty
02-15-2013, 13:00
Bert is buying lunch ??
Just posted this on Field's facebook:
Rep Fields,
You are driven by emotion and fallacies. You continually lie while speaking to the House. You have no idea what you are talking about. You can't even get your verbiage correct. You have no idea what the difference between a clip and a magazine is. You are ignorant to the subject of which you are trying to legislate. Please sit down and quit speaking. For the children.
I got two likes in under a minute.
Yeah, I got some likes too. She seems to be somewhat active on her FB page so hopefully she see's all these postings or at least her PR person tells her whats going on. Lol.
spittoon
02-15-2013, 13:01
dose any body know the hold outs names on the vote to stop this thing? we should mass e mail them now they are on brake
Rucker61
02-15-2013, 13:03
Yeah, I got some likes too. She seems to be somewhat active on her FB page so hopefully she see's all these postings or at least her PR person tells her whats going on. Lol.
I've posted about five or six times, and haven't seen anything back from her or her staff.
muddywings
02-15-2013, 13:03
had to deal with some work crap-how did it end?
I keep having cadets ask me what am I listening too and I yell at them "FREEDOM DYING, get out of my office"
Sharpienads
02-15-2013, 13:04
had to deal with some work crap-how did it end?
I keep having cadets ask me what am I listening too and I yell at them "FREEDOM DYING, get out of my office"
They're on break until 1220
muddywings
02-15-2013, 13:05
I've posted about five or six times, and haven't seen anything back from her or her staff.
They won't respond. They will just take your name so they can no-knock search your house sometime down the road when CO goes completely retard.
Katastrophic
02-15-2013, 13:07
Careful guys... You might hurt the poor woman's feelings. Lets not forget all of the aggravation she has caused thousands because she got emotional. [LOL]
crashdown
02-15-2013, 13:08
I can't do this until midnight.... I'm on my 4th dose of Excedrin for the day already.
Madeinhb
02-15-2013, 13:25
Wow a democrat with common sense.
Sharpienads
02-15-2013, 13:26
Wow a democrat with common sense.
WHERE?!?!? [panic]
Madeinhb
02-15-2013, 13:26
WHERE?!?!? [panic]
Speaking right now.
video is not back up, just had to reload the page
12:27..............There late...[Mad]
Madeinhb
02-15-2013, 13:28
Refresh it. I had to reload it
Refresh it. I had to reload it
AHHHH...[facepalm]
Sharpienads
02-15-2013, 13:36
Yeah, I had to reload as well, so to speak.
Rooskibar03
02-15-2013, 13:37
Wow a democrat with common sense.
I saw that. Need to send him a thank you email for having common sense
Sharpienads
02-15-2013, 13:37
I think the current speaker just said "Dumocrats"
Rucker61
02-15-2013, 13:39
This guy has lost the plot.
Rucker61
02-15-2013, 13:43
Saine is sounding good so far.
Sharpienads
02-15-2013, 13:46
No shit, Mc-whateveryournameis. It is an absolute position. You're either for freedom, or against it.
Now he's telling us we're all to stupid to understand what is going on. Fuck him.
ThunderSquirrel
02-15-2013, 13:47
No Right is absolute? What the hell...
BPTactical
02-15-2013, 13:48
Fuck you McLaughlin, nobody told me anything.
Unlike your constituents I have an IQ above room temperature.........
Rucker61
02-15-2013, 13:50
F*cking show that a magazine limitation will have any effect at all on crime.
Sharpienads
02-15-2013, 13:50
Uh, um, uh, duh...
blacklabel
02-15-2013, 13:50
And what if he needed 15 to stop 3 attackers? Jesus Christ.
lowbeyond
02-15-2013, 13:51
This guy is a class a fukking asshole
As to the guy who was attacked by 3 people, let the record show he shot 13 rounds. So 15 is acceptable.
At least he pointed out that alcohol doesn't kill anyone....
Sharpienads
02-15-2013, 13:51
No. No exceptions for anybody. I've had it with this shit.
BPTactical
02-15-2013, 13:52
Ahdebuhdebuh......what a maroon...
Hey dumbass, the .mil is full of thugs and miscreants too..
Sharpienads
02-15-2013, 13:52
At least he pointed out that alcohol doesn't kill anyone....
Nope. Never.
lowbeyond
02-15-2013, 13:52
oh look exemptions for .mil families.
fuck this shit
ThunderSquirrel
02-15-2013, 13:53
Please explain to me a situation where a Spouse would have a magazine in a vehicle, that belonged to her spouse that served...
Sharpienads
02-15-2013, 13:53
oh look exemptions for .mil families.
fuck this shit
Yep. They don't know what they are talking about. This is such a fucking circus.
Sharpienads
02-15-2013, 13:54
Please explain to me a situation where a Spouse would have a magazine in a vehicle, that belonged to her spouse that served...
It could happen. I get issued PMAGs. I use to keep them on my kit (before they were worth their weight in gold). Sometimes my kit is in my truck. Sometimes my wife drives my truck.
But this amendment is ridiculous.
Rucker61
02-15-2013, 13:55
Nice comeback on a (another) stupid amendment. This broadcast should be mandatory viewing for all voters.
palepainter
02-15-2013, 13:55
Im amazed at the argument for 15 rounds because of one case where a guy defended himself with 13...
lowbeyond
02-15-2013, 13:56
they should just offer an amendment to the bill and set the round limit to 3. fukkit
Sharpienads
02-15-2013, 13:56
oops 2. Nice
BPTactical
02-15-2013, 13:56
Holbert rocks
No Right is absolute? What the hell...
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
lowbeyond
02-15-2013, 13:57
lets just add exceptions for cops families too.
lowbeyond
02-15-2013, 13:58
hell why done we add exceptions for all donors to anyone in the frikken legislature.
blacklabel
02-15-2013, 13:58
No. No exceptions for anybody. I've had it with this shit.
Making exceptions just means that I, as a non-LEO civilian am further subjugated.
HoneyBadger
02-15-2013, 13:59
had to deal with some work crap-how did it end?
I keep having cadets ask me what am I listening too and I yell at them "FREEDOM DYING, get out of my office"
Lol where do you work up there?
Rucker61
02-15-2013, 13:59
Holbert rocks
Indeed. Every single time.
Singlestack
02-15-2013, 13:59
This amendment was just an attempt to pander to mil families, nothing more. Dems sure know a bit about pandering....
Sharpienads
02-15-2013, 14:00
Who is this fucking mouth breather?
BPTactical
02-15-2013, 14:00
Oh looky, the Levy BoulderBimboBobblehead!
36 daily deaths(of course 38 of those occurred in Chicago daily)
70 died in Aurora????????
The mentally ill are the "Scapegoat"??
No, they are the abberations of society that perpetrate these heinous atrocities you stupid Ditz...........
Sharpienads
02-15-2013, 14:00
This amendment was just an attempt to pander to mil families, nothing more. Dems sure know a bit about pandering....
A very weak attempt.
Making exceptions just means that I, as a non-LEO civilian am further subjugated.
And you know why that is, right?
Because you are not on their payroll. That makes it more difficult to control you, hence you must be disarmed.
HoneyBadger
02-15-2013, 14:02
And you know why that is, right?
Because you are not on their payroll. That makes it more difficult to control you, hence you must be disarmed.
Exactly.
Just because you can, does not mean you should!
lowbeyond
02-15-2013, 14:02
can we point to any studies or stats to say this will do anything? of course not
claire levey needs to just STFU and go make a hippy sandwich of rice cakes and fukking kale
Rucker61
02-15-2013, 14:03
The problem of lies?
Damn... and more people were killed with fists than rifles last year...
WTF! He didn't kill 70
There should be a fact-check buzzer....
This one is dumber than a box of rocks, or she hates America..
spittoon
02-15-2013, 14:03
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
x2
No. No exceptions for anybody. I've had it with this shit.
Oh yeah, you must watch this in moderation or you will..[Hang] yourself.
Making the mentally ill the scapegoat...they are the ones commititng the crimes!!!
Aurora shooter did not kill 70 people!!!
Rooskibar03
02-15-2013, 14:05
People's republic of boulder rep is towing the line as expected.
blacklabel
02-15-2013, 14:06
Deaths related to firearms - 30,000
Deaths related to Alcohol - 100,000
Deaths related to Traffic - 33,000
Screw this ish.
lowbeyond
02-15-2013, 14:06
and there it is
[this bill] is a constructive FIRST STEP
eta. only minutes b4 the Mc-douche-guy said its not a slippery slope.
please guys have a conference and get your story strait lol
Sharpienads
02-15-2013, 14:07
And you know why that is, right?
Because you are not on their payroll. That makes it more difficult to control you, hence you must be disarmed.
I haven't seen the amendment, but I have a hard time believing that it would apply to mil that are not serving in an official capacity. Meaning, if I am active duty and take my work mags home with me and get caught with it, I would be subject to the law. If I was doing something for work, I would not be.
blacklabel
02-15-2013, 14:09
I haven't seen the amendment, but I have a hard time believing that it would apply to mil that are not serving in an official capacity. Meaning, if I am active duty and take my work mags home with me and get caught with it, I would be subject to the law. If I was doing something for work, I would not be.
They submitted an amendment to allow .mil and families to possess standard capacity magazines off base and then revoked it after it was thrashed.
This is going to be a LONG day, if they want to cover even part of the agenda.
Sharpienads
02-15-2013, 14:13
They submitted an amendment to allow .mil and families to possess standard capacity magazines off base and then revoked it after it was thrashed.
That amendment was retarded then. I'm glad it was shot down.
Whatever law passes here in CO, every resident should be subject to it. No LE exception, no mil exception.
mahabali
02-15-2013, 14:13
Oh yeah, you must watch this in moderation or you will...[Hang]
Yep, I'm taking a break.
BPTactical
02-15-2013, 14:14
They submitted an amendment to allow .mil and families to possess standard capacity magazines off base and then revoked it after it was thrashed.
This just illustrates how hastily and knee jerk it was put together...
BPTactical
02-15-2013, 14:17
How is it Fields gets to repeatedly bump her gums????
Sharpienads
02-15-2013, 14:18
FFS, it's pronounced "ammunition", not amminishon.
blacklabel
02-15-2013, 14:18
And here's the sponsor of the bill...
How are we going to enforce? We're a nation of laws and we should govern what happens. Just like any law we have... Page 3 bottom of bill... a process in place... you can be prosecuted but burden of proof is on prosecution... go to wyoming, can't have high capacity magazines in CO, recommend you don't buy in Wy because you can be prosecuted.
Fields response.. oh it's the honor system!
lowbeyond
02-15-2013, 14:18
she is the bill sponsor...
palepainter
02-15-2013, 14:18
This chick is a dumb twit.....She just made the point with the entire...murders still happen, even though they are illlegal. Or in her words... UNLEGAL.. What a freaking genius.
lowbeyond
02-15-2013, 14:19
amminishon goes in the weapon-TREE
duh !
BPTactical
02-15-2013, 14:21
Jungle clips!
Yeehah!
ThunderSquirrel
02-15-2013, 14:21
Hell yes! If they want to do harm, they will find a way.
BPTactical
02-15-2013, 14:24
I wish somebody would mention the fact that while Hicks words after Aurora were sound and logical Field's first words we're: "We need to ban that"
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.. no with no stats or facts... all emotion.. they will FEEL safer
lowbeyond
02-15-2013, 14:25
And here's the sponsor of the bill...
How are we going to enforce? We're a nation of laws and we should govern what happens. Just like any law we have... Page 3 bottom of bill... a process in place... you can be prosecuted but burden of proof is on prosecution... go to wyoming, can't have high capacity magazines in CO, recommend you don't buy in Wy because you can be prosecuted.
Yep. it was ill answer the question on how this will be enforced.
The answer is laws ! So dont you do it lol
Sharpienads
02-15-2013, 14:27
I'm sorry, but Rep Joshi makes me laugh.
All due respect extended to the Rep.
spittoon
02-15-2013, 14:28
let's do some thing that is not perfect WTF did she just say
BPTactical
02-15-2013, 14:28
Hey, who let the cab driver in????
How is it Fields gets to repeatedly bump her gums????
It's her shitty bill that's getting torn apart bit by bit. She has to get up and defend it.
Besides, she gets a chance to demonstrate her mastery of the English language (e.g. "unlegal").
blacklabel
02-15-2013, 14:29
Cab driver or not, he gets it.
ThunderSquirrel
02-15-2013, 14:29
Cab driver or not, he gets it.
+1
spittoon
02-15-2013, 14:29
ban the knife sharpener yea
blacklabel
02-15-2013, 14:30
"haste makes waste".
[ROFL1]
Joshi makes a great points... not clouded by the emotion and looking for real results
BPTactical
02-15-2013, 14:32
Cab driver or not, he gets it.
Agreed, I was just trying to add a bit of levity.
blacklabel
02-15-2013, 14:32
Agreed, I was just trying to add a bit of levity.
Ohh, no I was laughing while I was clapping for him.
blacklabel
02-15-2013, 14:33
The rep. with the epic facial hair gets it too.
ntgtyper
02-15-2013, 14:34
why is it so hard to see that it is mental health?? not the mags
oh yeah and her response on not going to wyoming to get a high cap mag I urge you not to do it because it is illegal. people go there everyday to get fireworks that are illegal here
lowbeyond
02-15-2013, 14:35
that guy Joshi is worth more then 10,000 white liberals
blacklabel
02-15-2013, 14:35
why is it so hard to see that it is mental health?? not the mags
You have to be sane yourself before you can see that.
Sharpienads
02-15-2013, 14:36
that guy Joshi is worth more then 10,000 white liberals
Yep, I can think of a lot of things that are worth more than a liberal.
why is it so hard to see that it is mental health?? not the mags
Its hard to see with the stacks of money coming from the drug companies getting in the way. ;)
Its hard to see with the stacks of money coming from the drug companies getting in the way. ;)
Why? They would would be able to invent some more drugs that would need to be prescribed.
ntgtyper
02-15-2013, 14:40
^^^^^^ this is true^^^^^^
tactical_2012
02-15-2013, 14:49
I like this lady now she is awesome
Kraven251
02-15-2013, 14:52
I am glad these people are in office and able to address the issues, but after the judiciary committee, I don't have all that much hope, because the Dems are "this is a public safety issue"
Anyone know any lawyers that are willing to sue the state?
At least we know it won't be a pure partyline vote.
Ok now this is officially boring as fuck
Rucker61
02-15-2013, 14:55
Anyone know what kind of gun Sir Mario Owens used to kill Fields' son? I'm betting that less than 15 or 10 rounds were fired.
mahabali
02-15-2013, 14:58
Where did the english douche go?
motohooligan
02-15-2013, 15:05
Where did the english douche go?
To England? ;)
BPTactical
02-15-2013, 15:05
An interesting observation: the proponents keep flogging the same mule while the opponents come up with many new arguments against.
I particularly like the gent that represents the Columbine district.
Sharpienads
02-15-2013, 15:05
I really hate how they keep complimenting each other and saying how much they respect each other.
Fuck that shit. Take the gloves off. Say what you really think.
I really hate how they keep complimenting each other and saying how much they respect each other.
Fuck that shit. Take the gloves off. Say what you really think.
Slapping with a velvet glove...
Ok now this is officially boring as fuck
Can we say F*** Here?
Sharpienads
02-15-2013, 15:06
Can we say F*** Here?
Lol, I think it is generally frowned upon.
Rucker61
02-15-2013, 15:07
I really hate how they keep complimenting each other and saying how much they respect each other.
Fuck that shit. Take the gloves off. Say what you really think.
Yeah, imagine if this was the House of Commons. "Ignorant cunt" would replace "respected colleague".
Katastrophic
02-15-2013, 15:07
Glove slap, baby glove slap! -Homer Simpson
blacklabel
02-15-2013, 15:07
Yeah, imagine if this was the House of Commons. "Ignorant cunt" would replace "respected colleague".
And it would instantly be far more entertaining.
Slapping with a velvet glove...
Go outside and have duels.
Where did the english douche go?
Tea break.
Kraven251
02-15-2013, 15:08
Can we say F*** Here?
no but we can say fuck [BDay]
BPTactical
02-15-2013, 15:08
Where did the english douche go?
[teabag] and crumpets!
Sharpienads
02-15-2013, 15:09
Yeah, imagine if this was the House of Commons. "Ignorant cunt" would replace "respected colleague".
[fags] [handbags] [bad-banana]
This is what I imagine happens in the House of Commons.
blacklabel
02-15-2013, 15:09
Foote is about to say it's constitutional. He's received a lot of correspondence asking him to vote no but is in support.
Slapping with a velvet glove...
Slap that Avatar pretty will ya...Good Gawd!
muddywings
02-15-2013, 15:11
Heller=common use
ops or was it Miller?
Rooskibar03
02-15-2013, 15:11
Someone said glove slap.
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm251/cmuthard03/31bbe658b570cadb1935f745d9d178a0_zps74f5d3f8.jpg
Kraven251
02-15-2013, 15:12
Speaking of douche. Representative Foote, tell us more about how this helps anything.
BPTactical
02-15-2013, 15:15
Ferrandino forgot his "Waldo" outfit...
Sharpienads
02-15-2013, 15:15
He looks like Toby Maguire playing Peter Parker.
Kraven251
02-15-2013, 15:15
I spoke too soon ...Speaker Ferrandino, speaking of douche. He reminds me of that whiny kid in school.
muddywings
02-15-2013, 15:16
say clip one more time.....say it.....
blacklabel
02-15-2013, 15:16
He looks like Toby Maguire playing Peter Parker.
Playing a used douche. His HUSBAND is law enforcement?
Sharpienads
02-15-2013, 15:16
His husband?!?!?
Why am I not surprised.
Sharpienads
02-15-2013, 15:17
So his husband is a law enforcement officer, and now he's an expert? He needs to stop speaking.
Hooray for animals that will survive the ban...
http://i572.photobucket.com/albums/ss170/waxthis/Turtle-Gun--29936.jpg
Kraven251
02-15-2013, 15:17
There is not a limit to how many magazines you can have ...today (I saw the hamster go into overdrive there for a minute)
Where the hell is his neck?
BPTactical
02-15-2013, 15:18
Mark Ferrydino: "My husband is in law enforcement"
Laughing so hard I am crying........
His husband?!?!?
Why am I not surprised.
^^^ THIS!
zomg... wonder if his husbands co-workers know yet... if not.... SURPRISE!
blacklabel
02-15-2013, 15:19
A prayer that standard capacity magazines will all vanish? The fu?
why does fields keep talking?
62% support this? ha ha.. I don't think so.
muddywings
02-15-2013, 15:20
oh boy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Ferrandino
Kraven251
02-15-2013, 15:20
I need to mute her, every single time she speaks my blood pressure goes up. I really want to listen to both sides, but their arguments are so fucking myopic it pains me at my core.
blacklabel
02-15-2013, 15:20
why does fields keep talking?
62% support this? ha ha.. I don't think so.
62% of the people in her shitty social circles maybe.
lowbeyond
02-15-2013, 15:21
we gotta AK
blacklabel
02-15-2013, 15:21
Yeah, you're a VICTIM. WE CHOOSE NOT TO BE!
Wanna do something bold? How about this. ENFORCE THE FUCKING LAWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lowbeyond
02-15-2013, 15:22
LE is outgunned ?
Well thats a load of shit
Sharpienads
02-15-2013, 15:22
JFC, I cannot listen to this woman speak. [russian roulette]
blacklabel
02-15-2013, 15:22
Speak English please.
20 emails, 30 faxes, 60 letters, going to eat some lunch...
I got to listen to my Representative, she got an extra e-mail!!!
crashdown
02-15-2013, 15:23
High capacity ammunition!
62% of the people in her shitty social circles maybe.
So that would be like someone saying, everyone must know vector calculas and computational flow analysis, since everyone I talk to knows it!
motohooligan
02-15-2013, 15:23
HIGH CAPACITY MAGAZINE CLIPS. AMMINISHUN.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YOh-rpvjYg
BPTactical
02-15-2013, 15:23
If Fields says "High Capacity Magazines" one more time..............oops, she just pulled the "O" card...
ooohh, this guy talking now is right, but he will be dismissed, and even he knows it. Integrity right there!
Singlestack
02-15-2013, 15:23
Foote is about to say it's constitutional. He's received a lot of correspondence asking him to vote no but is in support.
Yup, Foote is my rep, unfortunately - and I have been writing to him non-stop. I wish he could see that 1224 will be completely ineffective. All a criminal has to say is he had the mags before the ban.
Rooskibar03
02-15-2013, 15:23
What the hell is high capacity ammunition?
Someone bitch slap fields. She can't even pronounce Colorado properly.
Fields is up there lying again. Invoking her dead son, again...
IF Law Enforcement is outgunned and they are "trained". Would it not stand to reason that an untrained citizen might need more bullets :)
Name one instance any police officer was involved in a shootout with a perp and his 100 round drum magazine.. Please. And WTF is high capacity ammunition?
blacklabel
02-15-2013, 15:24
Damn, he just rattled off all the parts of a magazine. Color me impressed.
We should have made a drinking game out of this...
High-Capacity = 1 sip
Magazines = 1 sip
Clip = 1 sip
Theater of War = Chug
Legislation = Burp
Vote No = shot
Urge = 1 sip
... I just got drunk writing this post.... [Beer]
newracer
02-15-2013, 15:26
Damn, he just rattled off all the parts of a magazine. Color me impressed.
He is a shooter.
BPTactical
02-15-2013, 15:26
oh boy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Ferrandino
"Oxygen Deprived"
Explains it all
blacklabel
02-15-2013, 15:27
He is a shooter.
Yeah, still blows my mind anytime a politician knows what the hell they're talking about.
Sharpienads
02-15-2013, 15:29
Yeah, still blows my mind anytime a politician knows what the hell they're talking about.
Sad, but true.
Ms Fields,
Please tell me how preventing me, a law abiding citizen who owns many firearms, from purchasing magazines for my rifle will save people's lives?
Murder is already illegal. How do you think that someone who is bent on committing multiple felonies will be stopped by another law?
How can you honestly think that people will think twice about breaking your unenforceable law will stop them?
I own guns that have plenty of 30 and 40 round capacity magazines, and there are no smaller ones available. Say I choose to sell the gun, for whatever reason. How can I be expected to sell a firearm that has no means of feeding ammunition, since your bill will prevent transfer of existing magazines? What if I need to sell it to raise money to pay a sudden expense? Would you rather I lose my home, my car, because I cannot pay my bills? Are you for ruining the lives of law abiding, in addition to businesses who have done nothing unlawful?
You may be my Representative in the the state government, but you do not represent me, nor anybody I know.
Colorado has a method in place to recall legislators. You can bet I'll be in favor of any such vote brought against you.
David N
muddywings
02-15-2013, 15:29
"Oxygen Deprived"
Explains it all
I was hoping someone would see that too....
Fields is up there lying again. Invoking her dead son, again...
I bet if Obama had a son, it would look like him
What hood does Field represent?
newracer
02-15-2013, 15:30
As much as I have been infuriated with the Ds I have been surprised by the Rs. They are well spoken, to the point, and make logical arguments.
Rucker61
02-15-2013, 15:30
Name one instance any police officer was involved in a shootout with a perp and his 100 round drum magazine.. Please. And WTF is high capacity ammunition?
.22LR. I can put about two thousand rounds in the cargo pockets of my shootin' pants.
What hood does Field represent?
Aurora
I hope we have swayed enough Democrats!
BPTactical
02-15-2013, 15:32
What hood does Field represent?
Aurora.........'nuff said
motohooligan
02-15-2013, 15:32
An Archbishop touched him?!?!?!?!
Sharpienads
02-15-2013, 15:32
As much as I have been infuriated with the Ds I have been surprised by the Rs. They are well spoken, to the point, and make logical arguments.
Agreed. Seems like a more Rs than Ds are speaking as well.
Kraven251
02-15-2013, 15:32
As much as I have been infuriated with the Ds I have been surprised by the Rs. They are well spoken, to the point, and make logical arguments.
So we're really screwed, using logic never works ...crap.
lowbeyond
02-15-2013, 15:32
mah baby died from hi-capacity magazine ammusshin clips used in the assault weapon-tree
we gotta AK !
/fields
stupid idiot
Aurora
Well that explains a lot.
The Chair did not seem to have a problem letting the democrat women babble on!!
Kraven251
02-15-2013, 15:35
So the chair will let Fields ramble on, but when someone is reading a letter that is direct refute of the emotional outcry, the chair is "get to the point"
This is a dog and pony show, I just hope on this bill the dems are split...meh.
spittoon
02-15-2013, 15:36
The Chair did not seem to have a problem letting the democrat women babble on!!
x2
jackthewall81
02-15-2013, 15:37
Summary?
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