Links To Listen/Watch Colorado Legislative Hearings Online Thread

[Jmetz]

The message is getting lost in these stories that drag on.

[Singlestack]

Is the house supposed to vote on 1224 today?

[John123]

filibuster?

[Ridge]

filibuster?

It has to be. This guy is all over the place.

[blacklabel]

Yeah, he needs to get to the point. Reminds me of some of the 8 page letters are sending to reps.

[palepainter]

Fields sounds like she was the one firing up the doobie yesterday. She makes no sense, and her grammar is terrible.

[jhood001]

It has to be. This guy is all over the place.

Right? I'm glad he's for us, but I'm not following anything he's saying aside from the fact that you can't legislate away evil and tragedies.

[Ridge]

Yeah, nobody is even paying attention to him. Lots of background conversations.

[jhood001]

Fields sounds like she was the one firing up the doobie yesterday. She makes no sense, and her grammar is terrible.

She said 'un-legal' today.

[lowbeyond]

i dont know whats going on anymore lol

[mahabali]

This guy is not good at reading.

[DHCO]

Alfred, a supplier to Magpul, will relocate out of state along with Magpul. Add another 150 jobs to the cost of this bill.

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22598247/colorado-house-opens-debate-ban-high-capacity-ammo

[Trigger Time 23]

I am having trouble following this guy.

[Lurch]

What the hell was that?

[mahabali]

What is with the laughing in the background?

[Ridge]

This guy is not good at reading.

I recognized his cadence right off. He was reading it like a sermon.

[ntgtyper]

man I was waiting for someone to bring up IL. crime rate

[Kraven251]

I like that it was stated with numbers, it won't make a difference, so why damage the state economy, and local businesses. I was so happy to hear that.

he said piece of legislation, I thought for a moment he was going to say shit.

[CO303]

What was Field's son's envolvement in the drive by? Was he a gang banger, just on the corner or what?

[muddywings]

WTF a verbal vote?

[Sharpienads]

What the fuck?

[motohooligan]

Holy FUCK

[merl]

motherfucking VOICE VOTE?

[Lurch]

FUCK

[crashdown]

is that really how they vote?

[muddywings]

I want names!!!!!

[John123]

Fucking Gay

[Singlestack]

Well, there we are. The house has screwed the citizens. Only hope is the senate now.

[ntgtyper]

wtf I think it is time to move

[Trigger Time 23]

how did they count that?

[mountainjenny]

How do we know who voted for and against?

[ShipDate]

Democracy in action.

[mahabali]

Again the NO's sounded louder. How the hell?

[merl]

game over. only thing to do is vote every last one of these assholes out in 2 years

[KAPA]

Too bad we didnt just have one guy that could yell really well. That was the dumbest thing I have ever seen!

[MED]

They will have electronic roll call on 3rd reading; the voice was just affirmation to the committee of the whole report.

[Rucker61]

Yeah, someone needs to get out Robert's Rules of Order and demand a roll-call count.

[waxthis]

Did that really happen? A voice vote, and high fives from that POS on the throne....WOW.

[DHCO]

Voice vote so those who voted for it won't have to answer come re-election.

[spittoon]

that the fuck

[brobar]

That is just the second reading. An actual roll call will be taken for the final vote!

[MED]

Voice vote so those who voted for it won't have to answer come re-election.

There will be a roll call vote on 3rd reading, you will be able to get the votes on-line.

[Lurch]

What was Field's son's envolvement in the drive by? Was he a gang banger, just on the corner or what?

He was going to testify against some gangbangers and was shot for it.

[Jmetz]

Legislation by applause-o-meter.

[iquack08]

This was second reading which is usually done by voice vote. Third reading is the final vote which is recorded and can't be on the same day as second reading.

[mountainjenny]

They will have electronic roll call on 3rd reading; the voice was just affirmation to the committee of the whole report.

Thanks! Do you know when will they do the 3rd reading?

[crashdown]

so it is not official till the 3rd reading? so it's not official yet?????

[MED]

Thanks! Do you know when will they do the 3rd reading?

It needs to go on the calendar so Monday.

[mb504]

I wish that 40% number would die! it was a freaking survey of 251 gun owners in 1994, the year the Brady bill passed!

[motohooligan]

I really wish she would learn how to speak. "Loop ho"

[palepainter]

You know, I have been watching this while working, and I have yet to see one stripper or doobie in the crowd.

[waxthis]

He was going to testify against some gangbangers and was shot for it.

"In 2005, Fields’ son, Javaad Marshall Fields, had agreed to give testimony of his knowledge of a 2004 murder near Lowry Park in Aurora. Javaad Marshall-Fields and his fiancee, Vivan Wolfe, were brutally gunned down in their car in June of 2005, before Fields could give his testimony. Since then, Robert Ray and Sir Mario Owens, have been convicted of killing them and sentenced to death."

[motohooligan]

Satisisics

[newracer]

I wish they would stop using the term "loophole" as it insinuates getting around a legal activity. There is nothing illegal about a private sale.

[Singlestack]

Fields sure does sound like an "angry black woman". That gal has mo method of speaking other than with extreme venom.

[Diesel24]

I really wish she would learn how to speak. "Loop ho"

"Sutistics"

[crashdown]

denials because something was misspelled or something?

[iquack08]

so it is not official till the 3rd reading? so it's not official yet?????

I wouldn't bet on the outcome being different. Any legislator has the right to request an unrecorded roll-call on second reading but given that it wasn't done suggests that the votes will not be close.

[Rucker61]

So I guess those bad guys gave up getting a gun?

[ThunderSquirrel]

Who knew Star Wars was on to something...

"So this is how Liberty dies... With thunderous applause"

[hghclsswhitetrsh]

There's not a damn thing I can say here that won't get me in deep shit. I'm so pissed.

[Rooskibar03]

She claims over 900 background checks were denied in January, which resulted is 900 weapons not being on the streets.

Whats to say those 900 didn't obtain a weapon in some other fashion?

[crashdown]

There's not a damn thing I can say here that won't get me in deep shit. I'm so pissed.

NO SHIT!

[Rooskibar03]

Here we go again. Anyone can buy a gun on the Internet.

[muddywings]

I wish that 40% number would die! it was a freaking survey of 251 gun owners in 1994, the year the Brady bill passed!

cited for truth: http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/338735/40-percent-myth-john-lott

[mahabali]

Welp I wont be selling any more mags any time soon. I need them for my weapon-tree.

Honestly, just like Tuesday, after watching the testimony I was optimistic because logic is in our favor. But logic does not matter to these morons.

[MED]

The thing that pisses me off the most about the background check bill is that there is no exemption for concealed carry holders. What is the point in screening a concealed carry permit holder?

[Skip]

Here we go again. Anyone can buy a gun on the Internet.

Maybe she can give us the website cause I'm tired of paying FFL fees...

[Rucker61]

Now they pull out statistics?

[newracer]

I hope someone brings up the truth that you cannot buy a gun over the internet without a background check.

[MED]

Was the magazine bill amended at all?

[muddywings]

if the mag limit ban couldn't be stopped I don't think any of the other three will.
I'm going to go kydex something gun related. I'll check back latter....

[newracer]

Was the magazine bill amended at all?

No

[Rucker61]

It needs to go on the calendar so Monday.

Is Monday a holiday for the House?

[Sawin]

What happened at 15:01?

Edit: never mind... This thread is hot and I hadn't refreshed in a minute. hahaha

[hghclsswhitetrsh]

What happened at 15:01?

Call for a voice vote perhaps?

[motohooligan]

You know, maybe if her son cared more about who he associated with, he might be alive today. If you keep bad company, bad things tend to happen.

[ntgtyper]

^^^ yup your a product of your environment ^^

[MED]

Is Monday a holiday for the House?

It never was when I worked in the legislature, but that was a long time ago. I think they will be in session.

[Ridge]

You know, maybe if her son cared more about who he associated with, he might be alive today. If you keep bad company, bad things tend to happen.

I thought we were above blaming the victim?

[Rucker61]

Oops, they brought in some logic. That'll get voted down by the Dems.

[merl]

if the mag limit ban couldn't be stopped I don't think any of the other three will.
I'm going to go kydex something gun related. I'll check back latter....

the mag limit is the only one with any chance of not passing. seeing that its a voice vote decided by the speaker... yeah... I'd guess a lot of people that were waiting to go in and make their point went home after that charade.

[mahabali]

Ugh... I need to de-stress. I think I am done for the day. Time to start drinking yet?

[Lurch]

I want to know how many of the 956 people who didn't pass the background check in Jan. lied om the form 4473 and if they did how many were prosecuted?

[hghclsswhitetrsh]

I want to know how many of the 956 people who didn't pass the background check in Jan. lied om the form 4473 and if they did how many were prosecuted?

Yup. The laws already in place need to be enforced. Not new ones created for feel good measures.

[Rucker61]

When I thought things couldn't get any more absurd...

[Rucker61]

Another interesting omission: you can't transfer a weapon to anyone for training or selling, if no trapping/hunting/fishing/target shooting is occuring. You can't even handle a firearm in a store without a background check.

[Lurch]

You need a lesson on hearing too.

[hghclsswhitetrsh]

Was anything changed as far as who the burden of proof on date of purchase of the mags? Or is it still falling on the burden of the state?

[Lurch]

hahaha

[lowbeyond]

Was anything changed as far as who the burden of proof on date of purchase of the mags? Or is it still falling on the burden of the state?

its the same. But really it is a pretty meaningless clause.

[hghclsswhitetrsh]

its the same. But really it is a pretty meaningless clause.

I agree. I actually see it changing after a while because of money spent trying to prove innocent or guilty. Or an out right ban of anything over 30 rounds.

[Lurch]

Was anything changed as far as who the burden of proof on date of purchase of the mags? Or is it still falling on the burden of the state?

As far as I could tell it is up to the state.

[MED]

its the same. But really it is a pretty meaningless clause.

If you are caught with mags, they will be confiscated and you may/probably will end up spending money on clearing the charge. i think a class 2 misdemeanor is grounds to pull your CCW/

[lowbeyond]

If you are caught with mags, they will be confiscated and you may/probably will end up spending money on clearing the charge. i think a class 2 misdemeanor is grounds to pull your CCW/

Well yea. What i was saying people hanging their hat on the the state shall have the burden of proof is meaningless

[MED]

I agree. I actually see it changing after a while because of money spent trying to prove innocent or guilty. Or an out right ban of anything over 30 rounds.

I doubt I will ever take my AK/drums to the range again while I live in Colorado.

[DHCO]

If you are caught with mags, they will be confiscated and you may/probably will end up spending money on clearing the charge. i think a class 2 misdemeanor is grounds to pull your CCW/

I doubt that. As far as I know most of my magazines have no date stamp on them. My pMags do but I can grind those off if I felt like even though they're "pre-ban". There is no law against defacing a magazine.

[jackthewall81]

I wouldn't post any information about any guns/mags/etc that you own anywhere especially the Internet MED.

[lowbeyond]

They keep lying and say all this does is make people get a background check. this bill does far more then that.

liars all of them

[jhood001]

I'm being completely serious here -

How is it that the myth of being able to purchase a gun on the internet without a background check is able to be repeated over and over in these hearings? And why isn't a single person taking their time to speak to explain that it is a blatant lie?

Are they not touching it because it technically is possible to purchase black powder firearms and ancient relics via this method?

Help me out here.

[Cylinder Head]

So 1224 passed a voice vote and I am once again back in NJ. Fanfuckingtastic. I was very excited about living here.

[BPTactical]

Did we expect any less?
Sure am glad I didn't waste another day down there.

[BPTactical]

I'm being completely serious here -

How is it that the myth of being able to purchase a gun on the internet without a background check is able to be repeated over and over in these hearings? And why isn't a single person taking their time to speak to explain that it is a blatant lie?

Are they not touching it because it technically is possible to purchase black powder firearms and ancient relics via this method?

Help me out here.

The truth does not matter to those with narrow mind and single vision J....

[mb504]

I'm being completely serious here -

How is it that the myth of being able to purchase a gun on the internet without a background check is able to be repeated over and over in these hearings? And why isn't a single person taking their time to speak to explain that it is a blatant lie?

Oh, I'm sure they will.. they are less than an hour into this now... This will probably go on for another 4 hours.

[StagLefty]

What ever string of hope in our system I had is rapidly disappearing.

[mb504]

Since it was asked for..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1FFVWEQnSM

[lowbeyond]

So 1224 passed a voice vote and I am once again back in NJ. Fanfuckingtastic. I was very excited about living here.

Me too up until just a wee bit time ago.

Im out of here. I've seen this all before. It always ends the same. Maybe CO will be different, but given the demographics, i kinda doubt it. This state that i chose to move to to escape the liberal idiots in NJ, and to which i have enjoyed for the last 3-4 years, has been taken over by the same type of morons.

[jhood001]

Oh, I'm sure they will.. they are less than an hour into this now... This will probably go on for another 4 hours.

Sure, but the effect is lost.

I'm wondering why the very next person following one of these blatant liars isn't calling them on it the second they take the podium. "Representative, what you said regarding it being possible to purchase guns without a background check via the internet is not true and I ask that you stop repeating this lie"

Or SOMETHING.

[Cylinder Head]

Me too up until just a wee bit time ago.

Im out of here. I've seen this all before. It always ends the same. Maybe CO will be different, but given the demographics, i kinda doubt it. This state that i chose to move to to escape the liberal idiots in NJ, and to which i have enjoyed for the last 3-4 years, has been taken over by the same type of morons.

Soon there will be nowhere to hide. The libs spread like an infection and do you know why? They want liberalism but don't want to pay for it. Cali and NJ too expensive? Let's move to a Red state where they have their shit in check and proceed to fuck it up all over again.

[TheGrey]

I'm being completely serious here -

How is it that the myth of being able to purchase a gun on the internet without a background check is able to be repeated over and over in these hearings? And why isn't a single person taking their time to speak to explain that it is a blatant lie?

Are they not touching it because it technically is possible to purchase black powder firearms and ancient relics via this method?

Help me out here.

There is no fact-checking. They pick and choose the numbers that will make the biggest impact and will support their party's stance. Blatant lies, middied stats, there is never a call for proof.

[Singlestack]

Is an FFL required to do one of these extended background checks? That is, can they refuse if they normally charge $25 and don't want to do a check for $10?

[palepainter]

Ok....Fields is a freaking moron. I wanted to give her the benefit of the doubt after a few of her moments at the podium, but she is really not capable of making rational thinking.

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

Fields is getting owned an previously owned gun getting and dtermining if it was transferred before or after this new law. I really good point.

[mb504]

Is an FFL required to do one of these extended background checks? That is, can they refuse if they normally charge $25 and don't want to do a check for $10?

They would not be able to refuse to do it for $10, under this law.

[crashdown]

Hey Bert....
Go there and raise your hand so they ignore some more logic and common sense.

[merl]

They would not be able to refuse to do it for $10, under this law.

then they better amend the bill to say that then.

It says nothing about FFL having to do it, just that the private parties have to engage one.

[EvilRhino]

I sat next to a couple with the Colorado 2nd amendment on their shirts until the lunch recess. Realized I couldn't do anything there, half the seats empty, and didn't want to risk arrest for actions after the vote. Watched it at home. [Mad]

[palepainter]

Here we go...... http://www.unilever.co.uk/Images/450---Vaseline_Original_Petroleum_Jelly_50ml_tcm28-298681.jpg

[palepainter]

If that bitch comes to the podium and simply says....Hey, I have answered your question earlier. I am going to lose my mind. She is not answering anything. Perhaps the question should be, what type of batteries does she prefer in her big ass dildo.

[newracer]

Gardner is pissed!

[newracer]

So we can transfer lower receivers without background checks?

[newracer]

Idiots

[MED]

Gardner made them look really really stupid...I guess that doesn't take much effort.

[mb504]

then they better amend the bill to say that then.

It says nothing about FFL having to do it, just that the private parties have to engage one.

Page 4 of Bill



(d) A LICENSED GUN DEALER MAY CHARGE A FEE FOR SERVICES
6 RENDERED PURSUANT TO THIS SECTION, WHICH FEE SHALL NOT EXCEED
7 TEN DOLLARS.

http://www.leg.state.co.us/clics/clics2013a/csl.nsf/fsbillcont3/590C29B4C02AFC2F87257A8E0073C303?Open&file=1229_01.pdf

[palepainter]

snubby little liberal lesbos.....

[palepainter]

Ok....Im done watching the train wreck here.... It is beer time.

[flan7211]

Wait I've been at work. What is the status of the bills?

[merl]

Wait I've been at work. What is the status of the bills?

seriously? this whole thing is a farce. they'll let us talk then have a voice vote.

[Rucker61]

Wow, that was well spoken.

[mb504]

The sponsors of the Bill left... ha ha ha

[Jmetz]

How was that a pass?

[mb504]

Just the pass of the second reading ( there is a third where they do an electronic count)... but it just seems like a farce. I'm not even sure he was looking up to see both votes.

[Jmetz]

I understand the 2nd reading bit, but I heard more nay then I.

[jslo]

Waller just reported on Michael Browns show (630 KHOW) Biden is in town and talking to the Dem legislature to "hold the ground" and Colorado is ground zero.

[mb504]

I understand the 2nd reading bit, but I heard more nay then I.

Oh, so did I. He was just hearing what he wanted to hear. I think writing your senator will be requirement, since these are going to leave the house.

[jhood001]

Waller just reported on Michael Browns show (630 KHOW) Biden is in town and talking to the Dem legislature to "hold the ground" and Colorado is ground zero.

Yep. And one of the sponsors couldn't answer questions because she was on the phone with Biden. Glad they're putting Colorado before party.

[Gman]

Ok....Fields is a freaking moron. I wanted to give her the benefit of the doubt after a few of her moments at the podium, but she is really not capable of making rational thinking.

http://youtu.be/vD94dVu8lqQ
It's been obvious since before she ever introduced the bills.

[Singlestack]

Is an FFL required to do one of these extended background checks? That is, can they refuse if they normally charge $25 and don't want to do a check for $10?

Rep. Gardner just introduced an amendment to not force FFLs to have to do these background checks for $10. Field objected!

[mb504]

On a light-hearted point, CDNN has 40-rd AR mags in stock.. so you can annoy a liberal.

[10mm-man]

Rep. Gardner just introduced an amendment to not force FFLs to have to do these background checks for $10. Field objected!


Charging $10 to do a BGC is different than charging $20 to do a gun transfer. Usually what you see today is an FFL charging xxx$$$ for the transfer not for the BGC. BGC are free today so FFL's don't charge for them, that is the norm. So now if they force $10 for a BGC you will prob see $10 amount for BGC on top of xxx amount for gun transfer.

[Singlestack]

Correct - but here is the problem - the BGC for the transfer introduces some potential liability for the FFL. Although they get a thumbs up/thumbs down for the purchaser, they know nothing about a seller. Also, many FFLs may well not want to do a BGC for $10 as a hassle for them. If enough FFLs turn down these transfer BGCs, I fully expect the legislature to attempt to force them to do it. As Gardner said, in committee yesterday, several committee members thought that FFLs would be forced to do these. This may well be a motivation to not be an independent FFL.

[Ridge]

Oh, so did I. He was just hearing what he wanted to hear. I think writing your senator will be requirement, since these are going to leave the house.

There will still be a vote that will be written down and counted. He will HAVE to abide by the written vote results. Not a bullshit audible vote.

[10mm-man]

Correct - but here is the problem - the BGC for the transfer introduces some potential liability for the FFL. Although they get a thumbs up/thumbs down for the purchaser, they know nothing about a seller. Also, many FFLs may well not want to do a BGC for $10 as a hassle for them. If enough FFLs turn down these transfer BGCs, I fully expect the legislature to attempt to force them to do it. As Gardner said, in committee yesterday, several committee members thought that FFLs would be forced to do these. This may well be a motivation to not be an independent FFL.


Gotcha- good luck with forcing me or others to do a BCG. FFL's refuse, so now it becomes harder to find ones who do? I see an opportunity for a BGC clearing house.........

[Bowtie]

It will add extra cost to the FFL. They will have to collect and account for these fee's. There will be additional time for performing these actions. All of this will be passed on to the customer.

[Rucker61]

I hear a Dem amendment coming on.

[CO303]

If the BG costs the FFL $10.50 why would we do the check for $10? I addition there's the cost of manpower to do the work. To force one to work without compensation is slavery. I think that would be a constitutional argument.

[Rucker61]

How often do teacher's pay for a background check? Every day that they teach school?

[Fmedges]

Do they pay for redundant background checks? 2 background checks per transaction

[Lurch]

What is to stop people from driving to WY and selling a gun there and then just driving back into CO?

[CO303]

Wyoming is going to get rich off CO because of these bills

[merl]

What is to stop people from driving to WY and selling a gun there and then just driving back into CO?

federal law

But the only way to enforce it is via a sting (for a misdemeanor, riiiight), catching someone in the act (so transactions move behind closed doors), or confession.

[Fmedges]

I'm going to lose my mind on the school carry bill. So frustrating.

[mb504]

I'm going to lose my shit on the school carry bill

Yeap, sounds like they don't know what they are talking about and do not know what it takes to get a CCW (and the mind change that happens when one carries on a daily basis).

[mb504]

So her whole argument is that "guns are scary" and not that there is a problem?

[Fmedges]

So her whole argument is that "guns are scary" and not that there is a problem?

Yes. That is exactly what some students and faculty members have said. "Guns intimidate and scare me so since I don't like them you can't have them."

[DHCO]

Apparently levy can teleport. Campus may be safe but how the hell does she think I get there? Is campus security going to escort me home every night? If this passes and I'm ever mugged on my way home from campus I'm going to show bloody and bandaged to her office and hold her personally responsible. I'm going to look into her eyes and make her tell me I don't need a gun to be safe.

[Fmedges]

Apparently levy can teleport. Campus may be safe but how the hell does she think I get there? Is campus security going to escort me home every night? If this passes and I'm ever mugged on my way home from campus I'm going to show bloody and bandaged to her office and hold her personally responsible. I'm going to look into her eyes and make her tell me I don't need a gun to be safe.

I talked to Rep Holbert about this exact thing yesterday. I hope he brings it up.

[DHCO]

I'm hopeful this one wont pass. Someone tweeted earlier today that she didn't have the votes and many democrats who supported the other measures were not on board with this one. Hopefully there is some truth to that. How anyone can support gun free zones in light of all these mass shootings is staggering.

[Fmedges]

I just sent this to Rep Holbert

Chris,

Here are the warnings I have received regarding safety


TIMELY NOTIFICATION BULLETIN FOR THE AURARIA CAMPUS
ROBBERY AND STABBING OUTSIDE COLFAX STARBUCKS
January 30, 2013 – 12:10 p.m.


TIMELY NOTIFICATION BULLETIN FOR THE AURARIA CAMPUS
STRONG ARM ROBBERY IN WEST CLASSROOM BUILDING
November 30, 2012 – 11:05 p.m.

TIMELY NOTIFICATION BULLETIN FOR THE AURARIA CAMPUS
INDECENT EXPOSURE IN PE BUILDING
September 10, 2012 – 10:25 am


TIMELY NOTIFICATION BULLETIN FOR THE AURARIA CAMPUS
INDECENT EXPOSURE IN LIBRARY
September 8, 2012 – 3:00 pm


TIMELY NOTIFICATION BULLETIN FOR THE AURARIA CAMPUS
ROBBERY NEAR AURARIA CAMPUS (10TH Street and West Colfax Avenue)
August 1, 2012 – 3:15 p.m.


TIMELY NOTIFICATION BULLETIN FOR THE AURARIA CAMPUS
AGGRAVATED ASSAULT NEAR AURARIA CAMPUS (Colfax and Speer)
May 24, 2012 – 2:50 p.m.


TIMELY NOTIFICATION BULLETIN FOR THE AURARIA CAMPUS
INDECENT EXPOSURE NEAR ST. FRANCIS CENTER
April 30, 2012 – 8:10 PM

Those are just a few that I have.

[DHCO]

And it passes. Fuck this state.

[mb504]

are they done for tonight?

[Fmedges]

And it passes. Fuck this state.

+1

[DeusExMachina]

And it passes. Fuck this state.

And what passes?

[ColoWyo]

Were there any NRA reps there yesterday? I was only able to watch part of the day due to a sick kid. Also, I didn't see anything from my district 64 rep Timothy Dore.

[brobar]

And what passes?

It passes second reading.

Nothing is a law yet. They will do third reading and vote next week. Then it will either fail or pass the House. That still doesn't make it a law yet... you then have to go to the Senate and do everything all over again. They'll have multiple readings and debate in the Senate. If they pass it there it technically still isn't a law yet. It will go to Hick's desk where he will have to sign it into law.

After all of that... if it gets that far (and that is likely)... your next recourse is lawsuits taking it to the state supreme court to (hopefully) overturn based on constitutionality.

[StagLefty]

Anyone else watching today ?

[ThunderSquirrel]

Still holding out some hope that common sense will prevail

[cjmore]

What's the link to watch

[StagLefty]

http://www.coloradochannel.net/colorado-house-2013-legislative-day-41

[cjmore]

Only have audio here - http://coloradoga.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?publish_id=10

Video here - http://www.coloradochannel.net/color...slative-day-41 (http://www.coloradochannel.net/colorado-house-2013-legislative-day-41) thanks staglefty

[StagLefty]

I just posted the link on previous page

[blacklabel]

I'm listening. Don't know why, but I am.

[StagLefty]

The link I posted is live video. Like Peter Boyles said this morning "it's not about gun control it's about control"

[MAP]

I'm listening. Don't know why, but I am.

Me too. The dems make my blood boil.

Mag reloads save lives?

Mike

[TFOGGER]

Priola busting out the Japanese Internment...YES!!!

[blacklabel]

Priola busting out the Japanese Internment...YES!!!

Awesome example.

[cjmore]

Kevin Priola just lost me with japanese interns...LOL kinda off topic here champ, bring it around!!

[blacklabel]

He's rocking it. The example is very appropriate.

[Jmetz]

Also Comcast channel 165

[cjmore]

VIGIL Atta pepper!!

[blacklabel]

Hell yeah!

[blacklabel]

Another rep that votes his conscience. Thank god I agree with it this time.

[StagLefty]

7-11 has a Rep ??

[blacklabel]

7-11 has a Rep ??

He moonlights as a cab driver. A freedom loving cab driver.

[cjmore]

Great the Denver Post editorial is shaping our state laws.

[TFOGGER]

Great the Denver Post editorial is shaping our state laws.

Are they going to ask Snooki next? [facepalm]

[blacklabel]

She's comparing my rights to that of a God damn pheasant.

[blacklabel]

Ohh, and more "it's constitutional" bull.

[Lurch]

Another person guilty before a trial/

[cjmore]

Thank you Coram

[cjmore]

Rankin is on point!!

[MarkCO]

Zak's letter got read.

[cjmore]

Zach Smith represent FTC!!
Murray is awesome!!

[Raul Duke]

Zing! Not about defense against pheasants....lol

[blacklabel]

Holbert calling out the true meaning of the second amendment. A free citizens right to defense against tyranny.

[Jmetz]

Anyone know if this is on the radio anywhere?

[StagLefty]

Anyone know if this is on the radio anywhere?

Couldn't find any radio coverage.

[TFOGGER]

Just online and Comcrap 165, as far as I know...

[Raul Duke]

Ignorant wretch. She irratates the F%ck out of me!

[MarkCO]

Fingers now in ears.

[blacklabel]

Ignoant wretch.

I honestly can't listen to her.

[blacklabel]

She just admitted that it's incremental once again.

[Singlestack]

Fields is now saying this bill is like Shakespeare: "To be or not to be". Man, thats freaking profound. At least she admitted this is an incremental approach...beware...

[cjmore]

Where is Colorado District 42? CastleRock, Parker,?

[mb504]

At least she is truthful about it just being the first step.. and it will not stop, if it is not opposed.
Fields has no idea about second amendment rights.. and only see guns as bad and can not understand the self-defense side.

[TFOGGER]

Ignorant wretch. She irratates the F%ck out of me!

You misspelled "stupid cunt"...

[blacklabel]

So this bill prevents you from being helpless how?

[TS12000]

This bitch is intolerable. At least she's dumb enough to let it be known what her actual intentions are though.

[MarkCO]

Ignorant liar.

[blacklabel]

So we're going to restrict the rights of millions because of an average of one mass murder per year for the last 30 years?

[jslo]

Some Dems have remained seated during Fields closing arguments. Not many, but some

[Jmetz]

Just one. Just one FACT that this will make us and our community safer. Just one, that's all I ask.

[blacklabel]

Here comes the vote...

[StagLefty]

Where is Colorado District 42? CastleRock, Parker,?

I think she's from Aurora

[cjmore]

Fields - "you will see more"

[Jmetz]

Passed

[Raul Duke]

34 to 31. Fuck.

[Singlestack]

Here we go, the official vote is NOW! Fields even said the 100 round drums can be used with any firearm. Just passed.....................

[blacklabel]

Passed 34 to 31. I'm going to go vomit now.

[TS12000]

34-31. Fuck.

[MarkCO]

Passed 34-31

[John123]

Damit

[Jmetz]

Buy your high capacity assault bullet magazine clips now folks!!

[Lurch]

I want to know if I buy 30rd mags outside of Colorado can I bring them into Colorado?

[mb504]

Buy your high capacity assault bullet magazine clips now folks!!

Now I have to go buy a "100 drum magazine" I think CDNN has some...

[StagLefty]

I'm still looking for the high capacity ammunition she brought up last week !!

[cjmore]

It's my understanding this now goes to the senate - It's time to reach out to the Senate.

[flan7211]

DO NOT COMPLY WITH THIS BULLSHIT! Soldiers have the rights to refuse unlawful orders, we have the right to refuse unconstitutional laws.

[Jmetz]

It's my understanding this now goes to the senate - It's time to reach out to the Senate.

Yes sir.

[Dave_L]

Are the results of who voted for it online?

[MattR]

How long before it goes to the state senate?

[DHCO]

I want to know if I buy 30rd mags outside of Colorado can I bring them into Colorado?

You can but its technically illegal. There is no way it can be enforced. You can grind off the date stamps of pmags or deface magazines anyway you want, there is no law against it. It will simply be tacked on to charges if you commit a crime with it, to make it more illegal.

[MarkCO]

I tihnk it goes to a Senate Committee, just not sure which one.

[TFOGGER]

Gerou is surprising me...

[battle_sight_zero]

DO NOT COMPLY WITH THIS BULLSHIT! Soldiers have the rights to refuse unlawful orders, we have the right to refuse unconstitutional laws.

I will not comply. However the 34- 31 vote shows that we need to look at who voted yes and who are the weakist to start a recall process. Make em miserable. The vote as many as the others out of office. I feel this is going to blow up on demoncrats in 2014. I will stock up well before July and will bide my time until the next election. Its clear that Ms.Fields and the current demoncrats have further plans. We are not peasants, they freaking work for us. Go against what the people want and go down. Elections first however I do get the impression that Demoncrats across the country are lashing out at the right and they may be wanting blood well keep it up with phony elections, fing with.everything they may get it.

[aryntha]

They're testing the water with these. These sail through, and a full on AWB likely is next.

[Singlestack]

^^^ yup. Next is full-on registration and AWB. As the angry black woman Fields said, this is an incremental approach. You can bet the farm even worse legislation is on the way.

[brutal]

Where is Colorado District 42? CastleRock, Parker,?

Aurora

http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Colorado_General_Assembly

Interactive Google Earth maps for districts here: http://www.colorado.gov/cs/Satellite?c=Page&childpagename=CGA-ReDistrict%2FCBONLayout&cid=1251599804133&pagename=CBONWrapper

We are proudly represented by Chris Holbert in House District 44 and Ted Harvey in Senate District 30.

[cjmore]

Aurora

http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Colorado_General_Assembly

Interactive Google Earth maps for districts here: http://www.colorado.gov/cs/Satellite?c=Page&childpagename=CGA-ReDistrict%2FCBONLayout&cid=1251599804133&pagename=CBONWrapper

We are proudly represented by Chris Holbert in House District 44 and Ted Harvey in Senate District 30.

My intention is to reach out to the senate leader of D42 and ask the question how Fields can justly propose incremental gun laws and the senate leader better step up!!

[StagLefty]

BGC passed

[blacklabel]

Damn, that was quick.

[jackthewall81]

BGC passed
Jesus.

[cjmore]

1228 passed
Payment For Background Checks For Gun Transfers

[StagLefty]

payment for BGC passed

[DHCO]

Come on, we should all be celebrating. Colorado is one step closer to being free of gun crime. Afterall, like Fields said, this is just the first step. After the next tragedy we will get 5 round limits with no grandfathering, AWB ban, registration and $100 fees for BGC. [Bang]

[two shoes]

Come on, we should all be celebrating. Colorado is one step closer to being free of gun crime. Afterall, like Fields said, this is just the first step. After the next tragedy we will get 5 round limits with no grandfathering, AWB ban, registration and $100 fees for BGC. [Bang]
I feel "safer" already....

[Fmedges]

Maybe you could hope for a college school shooting to be stopped with someone concealed carrying a handgun with a 100 drum that he bought privately with out a background check that the state would of paid for had he gotten one.

[Dave_L]

Well this makes it easy for the BGC. See who voted yes.

http://localtvkdvr.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/house-bill-again.jpg?w=402

[jackthewall81]

Come on, we should all be celebrating. Colorado is one step closer to being free of gun crime. Afterall, like Fields said, this is just the first step. After the next tragedy we will get 5 round limits with no grandfathering, AWB ban, registration and $100 fees for BGC. [Bang]
The fee will be $100?!?!

[buffalobo]

Scumbags, they know this will not stop violence or crime.[fail] [Bang]