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bogie
01-19-2014, 10:32
I'm gonna jump on the two wheeler and knock out a few miles before Mr Moosehead and I start conversing during the game.

Hi!


Laterzzzzzz

Bye!

bogie
01-19-2014, 10:34
G'mornin fellow PWTers!

im thinking that I can definitely go lighter on my loads and get more accurate shooting.........

260 loads? Based on what you've shown, your only shaving hairs by messing with your powder at this point.

bogie
01-19-2014, 10:36
FUK itunes... locked me out this morning.

buffalobo
01-19-2014, 11:29
Have you ever listened to the classic Art Bell episodes on youtube?

Oh yea, loves me some old school Art Bell. Especially the reptiods and lizard people from underground. :D

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buffalobo
01-19-2014, 11:30
She's a min pin, a distant cousin to Didi.

Damn, wife was right.

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buffalobo
01-19-2014, 11:34
We are going to a friends house for the game. Think I will take my gear and sneak away to the range. I can always listen to the radio between drills.

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OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 12:28
Howdy, howdy...

Too late for pre baked pics, but I can get some post heat action. One tray done, the other two are gonna be done pretty soon. I'm glad I cut everything up last night ahead of time.

Whatever the hell ya'll are gonna do today, hope you enjoy, and I'd like to see the Donkeys win........move on and play...........







San Francisco in the Stupid Bowl, where.................







Donkeys win again.

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 12:28
I used to listen to AB all the time, he was entertaining.

UrbanWolf
01-19-2014, 12:32
Here, knock yourself out, literally.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3752/12034702813_083ffc1ac3_o.jpg

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 13:00
Hot Wings.... I kinda jacked up the pan on the right, forgot to spray the foil with the goo.

http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k419/otterbatcat/th_IMG_1769_zps3318c254.jpg (http://s326.photobucket.com/user/otterbatcat/media/IMG_1769_zps3318c254.jpg.html)

waxthis
01-19-2014, 13:01
Hot Wings.... I kinda jacked up the pan on the right, forgot to spray the foil with the goo.

http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k419/otterbatcat/th_IMG_1769_zps3318c254.jpg (http://s326.photobucket.com/user/otterbatcat/media/IMG_1769_zps3318c254.jpg.html)

Sweeeeeet!

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 13:02
They have a little zip to 'em.. :)

You got that Moosehead conversing yet?

waxthis
01-19-2014, 13:02
I'm ready!
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/20/va7ery5u.jpg

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 13:04
Hell Yeah!!!

I was gonna put my jersey on, but I don't wanna jinx anything.

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 13:07
..or get ranch dressing on it.

waxthis
01-19-2014, 13:08
..or get ranch dressing on it.

That's a given!

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 13:16
All this pregame crap....just get it started.

brutal
01-19-2014, 13:28
This is an obvious reference to working the corner, right?

But of course.

brutal
01-19-2014, 13:29
Hot Wings.... I kinda jacked up the pan on the right, forgot to spray the foil with the goo.

http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k419/otterbatcat/th_IMG_1769_zps3318c254.jpg (http://s326.photobucket.com/user/otterbatcat/media/IMG_1769_zps3318c254.jpg.html)

We always use Release foil. Pre-lubed.

buffalobo
01-19-2014, 13:35
We always use Release foil. Pre-lubed.

Huhuhuhu, You said pre-lubed.:D:D:D:D

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mcjhr
01-19-2014, 13:43
Obc I'm coming over!!!!

mcjhr
01-19-2014, 13:44
SSS. Life is good!

waxthis
01-19-2014, 13:44
Bring it!!
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/20/y3ebe3av.jpg

HoneyBadger
01-19-2014, 14:10
Dude, HB, its like 8:45am, and you ALREADY went on a hike today. What the HECK is wrong with you?!

I mean sure, back in my younger days, I would go on midnight hikes up the flatirons, in the dead of winter, but not anymore!
Naw, it was yesterday. Left the house around 10 and we were home by 2

HoneyBadger
01-19-2014, 14:24
Did anyone else just lose the game? I have DirecTV and it just froze on a picture of Tom Brady.... [pileoshit]

mcjhr
01-19-2014, 14:32
Games on up 3

HoneyBadger
01-19-2014, 14:32
Did anyone else just lose the game? I have DirecTV and it just froze on a picture of Tom Brady.... [pileoshit]
Just got fixed... It was a problem with KKTV.

HoneyBadger
01-19-2014, 14:33
Annnnnd I missed a field goal. :(

mcjhr
01-19-2014, 14:41
Annnnnd I missed a field goal. :(

Looks like its gonna be an air game. Both sides.

HoneyBadger
01-19-2014, 15:06
Looks like its gonna be an air game. Both sides.
Passing games are always more exciting I think.

HoneyBadger
01-19-2014, 15:24
No Hos around?

HoneyBadger
01-19-2014, 15:53
GO BRONCOS! [WooHoo]

jerrymrc
01-19-2014, 15:57
GO BRONCOS! [WooHoo]

Don't quit. Keep going............. [word]

mcjhr
01-19-2014, 15:58
GO BRONCOS! [WooHoo]

HERE WE GO BRONCOS!

HoneyBadger
01-19-2014, 16:11
[Beer]

HoneyBadger
01-19-2014, 16:44
Game isn't even worth watching!

Tom Brady is a WANKER!

[ROFL1]

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 17:15
Yeah, Baby !!! Super Blow....bring on the 49er's.

Good looking wings there, Wax.

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 17:20
Huhuhuhu, You said pre-lubed.:D:D:D:D

Sent from my electronic ball and chain.

LOL.....

I didn't know it came that way.

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 17:21
Man, it really is beauoooooootiful outside today. Pretty neato.

mcjhr
01-19-2014, 17:22
Obc.....got wings?

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 17:26
Yeah...if I ate any more today, I'd probably puke. I killed off the smaller tray.

jerrymrc
01-19-2014, 17:54
Yeah...if I ate any more today, I'd probably puke. I killed off the smaller tray.

Since I have a um, procedure tomorrow I got nothing today but time on the throne. [panic]Last meal was last night so I will be good and hungry by the time I get to eat about 1pm tomorrow. [Rant1]

TheBelly
01-19-2014, 18:27
What's your regimen for cleaning out the ole clogged arteries?

Ummmmm....... Water and Gatorade.

TheBelly
01-19-2014, 18:33
260 loads? Based on what you've shown, your only shaving hairs by messing with your powder at this point.

I can still have the reduced recoil of a softer shooting load. Right now, I'm shooting at about 2850 fps (based on the drop at 750 and 1k yards).

If I can have a smaller group, then any edge I can to get it might be worth it.

I DO think that I've reached the edge of the big returns on investment, so now it'll be a game of inches, not yards.... Or more specifically, a game of millimeters, not centimeters.

TheBelly
01-19-2014, 18:40
I'm limited by the twist of the barrel..... 'Limited'........

TheBelly
01-19-2014, 19:08
So....who won the football match?

TheBelly
01-19-2014, 19:12
Today I really started to see the limitation in some of my optics....

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 19:13
Seahawks and 49ers are still playing 10-3 9er's...figured you already read that Denver won.

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 19:14
Today I really started to see the limitation in some of my optics....

Does that mean you're going to have to step up a level in optics?

bogie
01-19-2014, 19:24
Today I really started to see the limitation in some of my optics....

Lol next level up is $3K!

Going S&B?

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bogie
01-19-2014, 19:26
Since I have a um, procedure tomorrow I got nothing today but time on the throne. [panic]Last meal was last night so I will be good and hungry by the time I get to eat about 1pm tomorrow. [Rant1]

Good luck! I don't think I want to ask what you're having done...

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bogie
01-19-2014, 19:27
The wings looked really good OBC and wax. I'm hungry for wings now. I may head over to the Wing Stop for dinner.

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bogie
01-19-2014, 19:28
Tom Brady may your wanker rot off in your hot wife tonight...

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TheBelly
01-19-2014, 19:29
Does that mean you're going to have to step up a level in optics?

Maybe....perhaps......possibly......probably...... ...

*sigh*

this is a pretty expensive ordeal.

bogie
01-19-2014, 19:29
Lucky me I'm off work tomorrow! Anybody else get the day off? Not sure what ima do at this point.

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TheBelly
01-19-2014, 19:30
Good luck! I don't think I want to ask what you're having done...

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My guess is a butt-scoping.

TheBelly
01-19-2014, 19:31
Lol next level up is $3K!

Going S&B?

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well.... I'm more of a 'bang for the buck' kinda guy. I've never looked through an S&B......

bogie
01-19-2014, 19:31
My guess is a butt-scoping.

Exactly my thoughts.

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bogie
01-19-2014, 19:32
Once you get beyond where you are, german optics are the only worthwhile improvement imo.

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bogie
01-19-2014, 19:34
Wish I could drop 3K....

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bogie
01-19-2014, 19:44
Well shit... wings are out.. Looks like we're having pas-ghetti instead. I'll make up for it with a half stick of butter on my garlic bread.

bogie
01-19-2014, 19:45
Heyyyyyyyyyy NSA [fag]

bogie
01-19-2014, 19:49
I can still have the reduced recoil of a softer shooting load. Right now, I'm shooting at about 2850 fps (based on the drop at 750 and 1k yards).

If I can have a smaller group, then any edge I can to get it might be worth it.

I DO think that I've reached the edge of the big returns on investment, so now it'll be a game of inches, not yards.... Or more specifically, a game of millimeters, not centimeters.

I've never shot a 260 so I'm not sure what to compare recoil with. I'm thinking recoil is something like a 308 reduced recoil load??

TheBelly
01-19-2014, 19:50
Once you get beyond where you are, german optics are the only worthwhile improvement imo.

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I used/borrowed a Steiner 4-16x50 during a course in September. It was pretty nice....

TheBelly
01-19-2014, 19:50
I've never shot a 260 so I'm not sure what to compare recoil with. I'm thinking recoil is something like a 308 reduced recoil load??

Yeah, it's fairly mild. Even less when the gun weighs 15pounds+.

brutal
01-19-2014, 19:51
Since I have a um, procedure tomorrow I got nothing today but time on the throne. [panic]Last meal was last night so I will be good and hungry by the time I get to eat about 1pm tomorrow. [Rant1]

Name and address lookup?

Doc gets after me every 6 months for the past three years for not getting it done yet.

TheBelly
01-19-2014, 19:52
I've never shot a 260 so I'm not sure what to compare recoil with. I'm thinking recoil is something like a 308 reduced recoil load??

The neat part is that it has the flight characteristics of 300WM, just without the energy....

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 20:03
I'm not looking forward to the butt scope program, getting old enough that I should be due though.

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 20:04
Bogie has tomorrow off.... I think you should go shooting, of course.

bogie
01-19-2014, 20:04
The neat part is that it has the flight characteristics of 300WM, just without the energy....

That would be the best part. If only I could swap barrels like somebody else...

bogie
01-19-2014, 20:05
Bogie has tomorrow off.... I think you should go shooting, of course.

Better than getting my butt scoped, for sure. I may go. A friend told me of an indoor pistol range that I didn't know about. I may check them out.

bogie
01-19-2014, 20:06
Bogie has tomorrow off.... I think you should go shooting, of course.

You're gonna be on the shitter tomorrow after all those wings [LOL]

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 20:07
Heyyyyyyyyyy NSA [fag]


[ROFL1]

bogie
01-19-2014, 20:07
Time to make some garlic butter.

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 20:08
I *do* have some decent gas going on, I think it's a wing/bean dip combo.

TheGrey
01-19-2014, 20:08
WE WENT SHOOTING!!!!!!

waxthis
01-19-2014, 20:09
I *do* have some decent gas going on, I think it's a wing/bean dip combo.

Nice

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 20:10
Enjoy your dinner, Bogie.


Anyone else watching this game notice that both Carrol and Harbaugh both stand on the sidelines like they're trying to take a dump in their pants?

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 20:11
Heya Wax and Grey....how'd you do at the range, Grey?

TheGrey
01-19-2014, 20:13
Hiya, OBC. Hi Wax.
I did well with one gun, but I need a lot more practice with the others. We joined a new range today. :)

waxthis
01-19-2014, 20:16
Hiya, OBC. Hi Wax.
I did well with one gun, but I need a lot more practice with the others. We joined a new range today. :)

What range?

bogie
01-19-2014, 20:18
Hey Grey! Nice job at the range. Which one did you join?

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TheGrey
01-19-2014, 20:19
Centennial Gun Club.

WOW, is it nice! The people were incredibly polite and cordial, the place is huge and well-lit, and there are a lot of amenities.

bogie
01-19-2014, 20:19
Garlic butter is so damn good, I could drink it...

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TheGrey
01-19-2014, 20:19
Hey, bogie!

bogie
01-19-2014, 20:20
I submitted my app to the Golden gun club, but missed the cut for this year. Anybody know somebody that could pull strings pour moi?

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bogie
01-19-2014, 20:21
Okay dinner is smelling good. Talk to you hose later.

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waxthis
01-19-2014, 20:21
Centennial Gun Club.

WOW, is it nice! The people were incredibly polite and cordial, the place is huge and well-lit, and there are a lot of amenities.

That's a nice range, glad you had a good time. Seems like most the peeps around here just got fat today...:p

TheGrey
01-19-2014, 20:22
Bummer, bogie. I'm afraid I don't know anyone that could help you.

TheGrey
01-19-2014, 20:23
That's a nice range, glad you had a good time. Seems like most the peeps around here just got fat today...:p

We had a great time! :)

I guess there was some sort of football game or something today, huh?

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 20:28
49er went down with a significant knee injury, not pretty to watch....and on top of it, he recovered a fumble that didn't count, not a reviewable play.

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 20:28
Cool ya had a great time, Grey.

DSB OUTDOORS
01-19-2014, 20:29
[Wave] Hey Kids. Happy MLK Day tomorrow!! [Beer]

TheGrey
01-19-2014, 20:29
That's a shame!

TheBelly
01-19-2014, 20:29
What kind of guns did you shoot today, Grey?

TheGrey
01-19-2014, 20:30
Howdy, DSB! Thanks. :) We're hitting the stock show tomorrow.

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 20:31
Hey DSB

TheBelly
01-19-2014, 20:31
What did you have problems with?

I haven't made a video in about a day... It's about time!

TheGrey
01-19-2014, 20:33
A Colt .357 Magnum (Uberti replica of a Colt Cattleman's, single action)
.45 ACP Baby Eagle
.380 Walther PP

TheGrey
01-19-2014, 20:35
I had some problems with the .45 and the Walther. I was incredibly rusty. Gotta start going there on a regular basis.

DSB OUTDOORS
01-19-2014, 20:36
Howdy, DSB! Thanks. :) We're hitting the stock show tomorrow.


Hey DSB
Howdy Brothers!!!! Just checking in. I to have dinner waiting. To many beers for the Broncos. I'll check in a bit. [Beer]

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 20:38
Bonapatit

TheBelly
01-19-2014, 20:45
I gotta get loading.... 250 rds of .260 Remington aren't going to load themselves....

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 20:45
49er's need some miracle bullshit to happen now.

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 20:58
So, it's Broncos vs. Seahawks in two weeks.

TheBelly
01-19-2014, 21:01
Broncos vs Seahawks, huh?

not quite a clash of the titans. I mean, really......

Who thinks the Seahawks even resemble a 'titan'?

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 21:09
Belly, in your opinion, what's the furthest reasonable distance an accomplished shooter can reach with an AR platform .223/5.56, with premium optics and normal shooting conditions, with either a semi or bolt set up?

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 21:11
..and what optic would you recommend for said rifle in semi form?

TheBelly
01-19-2014, 21:26
Long question....

i built mine. I can get a hit on an ipsc torso at 750. I have hit a prairie dog at 417. This was with hand loads...

as far as having any punch left on the round, I honestly wouldn't go past about 500, depending on the barrel length.

TheGrey
01-19-2014, 21:31
See ya, guys! Have a good night. :)

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 21:31
Okay, that's a little further than I thought, cool, thanks.

I don't need a 3K scope for that gun, what would you recommend?

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 21:32
Goodnight, Grey..nice ta see ya.

TheBelly
01-19-2014, 21:34
My precision AR-15 rifle is this:

Spikes tactical built lower
geisselle 2-stage trigger
Magpul ctr stock
Spikes st-t2 buffer

Colt upper
rainier arms ultra-match barrel, 16" mid-length gas. It's a .223 wylde chamber, 1/8 twist.
used charging handle
random bolt and carrier
carbon arms 15" hand guard (which I love)
gemtech trek suppressor (permanent resident of this gun)

leupold mk4 LR/T 3.5-10x40 w/ M3 knobs
LaRue SPR-S (LT158) mount.
i share this optic between this gun and the larue PredatAR.

TheBelly
01-19-2014, 21:36
Okay, that's a little further than I thought, cool, thanks.

I don't need a 3K scope for that gun, what would you recommend?

http://www.opticsplanet.com/bushnell-elite-tactical-3-12x44mm-rifle-scope.html

this, with the G2 reticle. Folks have been shooting other folks dead with 10x for a very long time. FFP, fancy reticle, mil/mil, good company, etc.

TheBelly
01-19-2014, 21:36
Oh... The load: 23.6gr of TAC behind a 75 Hornady BTHP....

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 21:39
I'm wanting a better scope for my AR, but not one that is better than the rifle is capable of.....is why I'm asking.

Thanks, brother.

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 21:39
Oh... The load: 23.6gr of TAC behind a 75 Hornady BTHP....

Thanks, I was curious about what you were doing in that department as well.

TheBelly
01-19-2014, 21:43
OBC what do you think you can get done with an AR?

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 21:47
I'm just trying to get better with it period, and better further out with it. Trust me, I don't want to just throw money at stuff for no reason.

I think my biggest problem, I think, is not being able to see well enough.

TheBelly
01-19-2014, 21:48
Do you have corrected vision (glasses)?

or do the current glasses not really work that well?

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 21:50
You're going to make me go to the lasek doctor, aren't you.

TheBelly
01-19-2014, 21:51
That scope I linked you to has both diopter (reticle) focus and target focus (parallax adjustment).

thos are the two most important aspects for seeing well through a magnified tube.

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 21:53
Oh, I bookmarked it....$800 is still slightly less than getting both eyes done.. :)

TheBelly
01-19-2014, 21:53
You're going to make me go to the lasek doctor, aren't you.

I wore glasses for 25 years. I also shot and killed lots of critters with those thick glasses.

i even did it when I was mostly blind.

TheBelly
01-19-2014, 21:54
Oh, I bookmarked it....$800 is still slightly less than getting both eyes done.. :)

Dude, mine was about $6500.... PER EYE.

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 21:56
Well in that case, I can get a few $3K scopes before I get it done.

btw, I'm glad all your eye stuff has worked out. You went through a lot, man.

bogie
01-19-2014, 21:57
http://www.opticsplanet.com/bushnell-elite-tactical-3-12x44mm-rifle-scope.html

this, with the G2 reticle. Folks have been shooting other folks dead with 10x for a very long time. FFP, fancy reticle, mil/mil, good company, etc.

+++++

BuffCyclist
01-19-2014, 21:57
Finite Element Analysis while drafting for work is MUCH more enjoyable with a working knowledge of statics and dynamics.

The beer might also be helping... [Tooth]

bogie
01-19-2014, 21:58
Dude, mine was about $6500.... PER EYE.

Damn.

bogie
01-19-2014, 21:59
Finite Element Analysis while drafting for work is MUCH more enjoyable with a working knowledge of statics and dynamics.

The beer might also be helping... [Tooth]

speaking of correction, BC has on his beer goggles..

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 22:01
LOL Bogie....

..and howdy BC

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 22:02
Bogie, did you have one of those spaghetti moments with the Mrs., ....eating the same noodle until ya kiss?

brutal
01-19-2014, 22:04
I have both a Leupold MK-IV LR/T 3.5-10x40 and a SWFA 3-9x42 (and a 3-15x42 FFP I still haven't mounted) and for the money, the SWFA gives the Leupy a run for its money and is what I run on my AR platforms.

That said, Leupold warranty and customer service can't be beat. The Mark 4 is staying on the .308 bolt gun I use for hunting. I wouldn't mind going to the M5 turrets to get off the MOA/MIL setup into a MIL/MIL, but I know my holdover when needed.

bogie
01-19-2014, 22:04
Yes, it was in the magic kingdom castle, with fireworks bursting in the sky!

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 22:09
Heya Brutal

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 22:13
Uh Oh.

*runs to the can*

brutal
01-19-2014, 22:19
Don't eat free Gummys

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 22:21
$1600 for the MK IV...spensive.

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 22:22
Naw, it was a fart that almost got out of control.

Everything's good now.. ;)

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 22:23
Where'd Fire Crotch go?

HoneyBadger
01-19-2014, 22:26
WE WENT SHOOTING!!!!!!



[WooHoo]
[WooHoo]
[WooHoo]
[WooHoo]
[WooHoo]
[WooHoo]
[WooHoo]
[WooHoo]
[WooHoo]
[WooHoo]

BuffCyclist
01-19-2014, 22:30
I went back to work.

Not enough reinforcement (ie too much displacement where the load will sit. Time to rethink this.

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 22:32
Alright, if I order that scope, is it gonna fit in the mounts I already have?...Optics Planet isn't giving specs on the o.d. of the tube or mount options....that I see anyways.

brutal
01-19-2014, 22:32
$1600 for the MK IV...spensive.

That's gotta be for the FFP or illuminated model.

http://www.leupold.com/hunting-shooting/scopes/mark-4-lrt-riflescopes/

Knock probably $400 of MSRP.

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 22:32
Geeze HB.........you a little happy about shooting?

How'd ya do? give us the low down.

brutal
01-19-2014, 22:33
Alright, if I order that scope, is it gonna fit in the mounts I already have?...Optics Planet isn't giving specs on the o.d. of the tube or mount options....that I see anyways.

what scope?

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 22:35
BC.......we're counting on you. We know you're gonna figure it out.

BuffCyclist
01-19-2014, 22:36
Oh I'll figure it out, I've got another 2 months to work on it, and I'm not even working full time yet... [WooHoo]

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 22:37
Brutal, the bushnell in Bellys link. I can do 800 right now, but I think that's probably my limit for that gun. If I had a high end gun, I could justify high end money for optics.

1200 is too much for that AR I think.

Great-Kazoo
01-19-2014, 22:41
Well in that case, I can get a few $3K scopes before I get it done.

btw, I'm glad all your eye stuff has worked out. You went through a lot, man.


Alright, if I order that scope, is it gonna fit in the mounts I already have?...Optics Planet isn't giving specs on the o.d. of the tube or mount options....that I see anyways.

30MM. I have an Elite 6500 if you'd like to take a peek down the tube.

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 22:42
Bogie got a new scope recent, but I forget what it was...and I think he had to wait for mounts or some shit.

He's pretty damn good with his .308

brutal
01-19-2014, 22:44
Brutal, the bushnell in Bellys link. I can do 800 right now, but I think that's probably my limit for that gun. If I had a high end gun, I could justify high end money for optics.

1200 is too much for that AR I think.

I know Belly and Bogie are all gaga about that scope, but you should take a look at the SWFA 3-15x42 FFP with the Mil-quad reticle for that kind of money.

HoneyBadger
01-19-2014, 22:47
Geeze HB.........you a little happy about shooting?

How'd ya do? give us the low down.
I didn't go shooting, I just get excited when anyone gets to have a good day at the range. I like to live vicariously through my "internet friends" as BC would call them.

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 22:49
30MM. I have an Elite 6500 if you'd like to take a peek down the tube.

Yes, I would.

My mounts are 25.5...so I do need new mounts as well.

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 22:50
I didn't go shooting, I just get excited when anyone gets to have a good day at the range. I like to live vicariously through my "internet friends" as BC would call them.

Smart ass.....funny though.

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 22:52
This one, Brutal?

http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-3-15x42-Tactical-Rifle-Scope-P62238.aspx

Great-Kazoo
01-19-2014, 22:54
I didn't go shooting, I just get excited when anyone gets to have a good day at the range. I like to live vicariously through my "internet friends" as BC would call them.

Make sure your hands are clean before typing.

brutal
01-19-2014, 22:55
This one, Brutal?

http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-3-15x42-Tactical-Rifle-Scope-P62238.aspx

That's the one.

If you want to peek through one, PM me.

HoneyBadger
01-19-2014, 22:56
Smart ass.....funny though.
I wish I got to go shooting today... Instead I was at the in-laws.

HoneyBadger
01-19-2014, 22:57
Make sure your hands are clean before typing.
I keep them extra dirty, just for you.

BuffCyclist
01-19-2014, 23:05
Apparently its late and time for bed. Will be spending most of tomorrow drafting for class with a friend and all I will be thinking of is doing FEA [Tooth]

Goodnight Hos, try not to make OBC spend too much money [LOL]

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 23:06
Good to see ya BC.

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 23:07
Thanks Brutal.

buffalobo
01-19-2014, 23:10
Young Frankenstein on HDNMV. Laughing my azz off.

Great-Kazoo
01-19-2014, 23:22
Young Frankenstein on HDNMV. Laughing my azz off.

that's Franken STEEN. Class Dismissed.

GilpinGuy
01-19-2014, 23:23
Young Frankenstein on HDNMV. Laughing my azz off.

Hump? What hump? LOL

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 23:28
Hey...its GG

Yo Lobo

Thanks Jim

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 23:29
"just hold it until the tip glows"

Great movie.

TheBelly
01-19-2014, 23:40
Alright, if I order that scope, is it gonna fit in the mounts I already have?...Optics Planet isn't giving specs on the o.d. of the tube or mount options....that I see anyways.

Gotcha covered on the specs! (30mm tube)

http://www.bushnell.com/all-products/rifle-scopes/elite-tactical/lrs-3-12x-44mm-illuminated-mil-dot#

TheBelly
01-19-2014, 23:45
Lotsa folks love the swfa scopes. I've never looked through one, so I can't comment.

the G2 reticle makes the bushnell worth it (Horus-like reticle without the added licensing fee). If it wasn't available, and all I could get was the mildot (btr2) reticle, I'd probably think harder about swfa.

truth be told, my first bushnell was a gift from my wife. I told her what a scope should have, and she came home with it one day.

shes a pretty good woman.

TheBelly
01-19-2014, 23:48
OBC: lots of good advice on here. Being able to look through a bunch of different scopes is a golden opportunity. Regardless of the cost of the gun, get the best glass you can. When the rifle dies, the scope can then be put on a new gun.

Expensive scopes and mounts are where a lot of the cost should be.... Shit, I've got a $550 rifle with a $1200 optic setup.....

BUT, I can (and do) take that scope between several rifles.

TheBelly
01-19-2014, 23:49
Brutal is just jealous because he got swfa and not bushnell. All the cool kids (ok, so just me and bogie) use bushnell.....

TheBelly
01-19-2014, 23:50
Also, 30mm is fairly standard these days for a 'tactical' scope.

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 23:50
Mrs. Belly...........You Rock.

It's okay to pass that on. .:)

Thanks you guys, I've got some things to think about, and think I will.

OtterbatHellcat
01-19-2014, 23:52
Also, 30mm is fairly standard these days for a 'tactical' scope.

That Nikon 2 8 32 is 25.5 tube...and my AR has a fixed carry handle.. :(

Great-Kazoo
01-19-2014, 23:56
That Nikon 2 8 32 is 25.5 tube...and my AR has a fixed carry handle.. :(

Change the A2 to an A-3 / flat top. With the carry handle you're 4" above the bbl, from go.

OtterbatHellcat
01-20-2014, 00:02
Yep, 4".. that means getting a whole new lower, right?

HoneyBadger
01-20-2014, 00:04
Yep, 4".. that means getting a whole new lower, right?
No, just the upper receiver. You can keep your barrel, hand guards, stock, and all other accessories, just get a different upper receiver to build your gun around.

OtterbatHellcat
01-20-2014, 00:09
Hell, I figured the whole barrel part was the upper, and everything else was considered the lower part.

FNG

Thanks.

TheBelly
01-20-2014, 00:09
Yeah, it's like $90-up for a new upper... Add in about a half hour of skill with a torque wrench, and all is well.

OtterbatHellcat
01-20-2014, 00:11
Sweet, I never liked that damn carry handle anyways, but it was the deal I got at the time, for that gun, blah blah.....$90 to get rid of that ain't bad.

HoneyBadger
01-20-2014, 00:12
Sweet, I never liked that damn carry handle anyways, but it was the deal I got at the time, for that gun, blah blah.....$90 to get rid of that ain't bad.
Yep, piece of cake!

OtterbatHellcat
01-20-2014, 00:15
Right on, Brothers, thanks again for your help on stuff.

The alarm goes off in about six hours from now, so I'd better get my butt to bed.......not that I really want to start the work week all over again.

Later ho's, hope we have a good week.

TheBelly
01-20-2014, 00:16
Pm me your address, OBC.

brutal
01-20-2014, 00:38
Brutal is just jealous because he got swfa and not bushnell. All the cool kids (ok, so just me and bogie) use bushnell.....

haha

Truth be told, I got a little screwed on the first SWFA 3-9x42 FFP I got second hand. Thinking it was the mil-quad reticle and it turned out to be the older mil-dot reticle. When the 3-15x42 FFP came up on Cyber Monday for $535 I pounced.

I actually got a a little screwed on the Mark 4 as well. When I bought the rifle/scope package off ARFCOM, it turns out that while the Scope is packaged/marked as a Mark 4, it was an early model that apparently has the older Mark 3 glass, some say - better - glass, but doesn't have the screw threads on the eyepiece and objective bells so I can't use the cool Leupold magnetic covers I bought for it. The worst part is that I could probably sell the pair but misplaced one of them.

I wasn't aware of the Bushnell at the time, or certainly would have considered it as well. Sometimes you go with what you know. I know the SWFA is solid and I know what to expect of it given my abilities.

TheBelly
01-20-2014, 06:15
Really? No late night hose around?

buffalobo
01-20-2014, 06:26
Just early ho's in for breakfast.

Sent from my electronic ball and chain.

TheBelly
01-20-2014, 08:11
So, I turned off my alarm and closed my eyes for just a second.......

two hours later, I wake up...

Great-Kazoo
01-20-2014, 08:32
Yep, 4".. that means getting a whole new lower, right?

We're talking guns, not sex change

Great-Kazoo
01-20-2014, 08:34
Also, 30mm is fairly standard these days for a 'tactical' scope.

IIRC, the new burris XTR2 series will be a tad larger. dia.

Great-Kazoo
01-20-2014, 08:38
haha

Truth be told, I got a little screwed on the first SWFA 3-9x42 FFP I got second hand. Thinking it was the mil-quad reticle and it turned out to be the older mil-dot reticle. When the 3-15x42 FFP came up on Cyber Monday for $535 I pounced.

I actually got a a little screwed on the Mark 4 as well. When I bought the rifle/scope package off ARFCOM, it turns out that while the Scope is packaged/marked as a Mark 4, it was an early model that apparently has the older Mark 3 glass, some say - better - glass, but doesn't have the screw threads on the eyepiece and objective bells so I can't use the cool Leupold magnetic covers I bought for it. The worst part is that I could probably sell the pair but misplaced one of them.

I wasn't aware of the Bushnell at the time, or certainly would have considered it as well. Sometimes you go with what you know. I know the SWFA is solid and I know what to expect of it given my abilities.

I've usually purchased based upon what another board member or someone in my local has they're looking to sell. Luckily most of the glass has been (for me) higher end. Or something cool, like an old redfield 4x, that came with a 77/22 package from Ruger way back.

If you're going to play the LD game, save the pennies. The optics game is like AR acc. Someone, somewhere, wants to "upgrade" and if you act fast usually score something worthwhile.

bogie
01-20-2014, 08:44
Lotsa folks love the swfa scopes. I've never looked through one, so I can't comment.

the G2 reticle makes the bushnell worth it (Horus-like reticle without the added licensing fee). If it wasn't available, and all I could get was the mildot (btr2) reticle, I'd probably think harder about swfa.

truth be told, my first bushnell was a gift from my wife. I told her what a scope should have, and she came home with it one day.

shes a pretty good woman.

Please tell me you used the white board to explain to her what you wanted.


OBC: lots of good advice on here. Being able to look through a bunch of different scopes is a golden opportunity. Regardless of the cost of the gun, get the best glass you can. When the rifle dies, the scope can then be put on a new gun.

Expensive scopes and mounts are where a lot of the cost should be.... Shit, I've got a $550 rifle with a $1200 optic setup.....

BUT, I can (and do) take that scope between several rifles.

You can look through mine since I'm closer than texas.


Brutal is just jealous because he got swfa and not bushnell. All the cool kids (ok, so just me and bogie) use bushnell.....

And jim is a cool kid too


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bogie
01-20-2014, 08:47
Change the A2 to an A-3 / flat top. With the carry handle you're 4" above the bbl, from go.

This is a must. You can buy a flat top upper and ask Bert to swap it out for you. Or sell your complete upper and buy one that's freefloated.

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Great-Kazoo
01-20-2014, 08:47
And jim is a cool kid too


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https://sp1.yimg.com/ib/th?id=H.4813663160893473&pid=15.1

bogie
01-20-2014, 08:50
We're talking guns, not sex change

Bwahahaha [rofl1]

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bogie
01-20-2014, 08:51
This is a must. You can buy a flat top upper and ask Bert to swap it out for you. Or sell your complete upper and buy one that's freefloated.

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Apparently thus was already answered. Fukin tapatalk..

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bogie
01-20-2014, 08:51
Who's got the day off?

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Great-Kazoo
01-20-2014, 08:56
Who's got the day off?

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[pick-me]

bogie
01-20-2014, 09:00
Maybe I'll catch you at the parade lol

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jerrymrc
01-20-2014, 09:07
Who's got the day off?

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Kind of. I have a Dr's appt in an hour. Will see daylight around noon. [LOL]

HoneyBadger
01-20-2014, 09:13
Will see daylight around noon. [LOL]
So what part of town should we avoid while you are out finding daylight after your operation? There's a reason they call it "the place where the sun doesn't shine". [Shake]

HoneyBadger
01-20-2014, 09:18
Who's got the day off?

[pick-me]

BuffCyclist
01-20-2014, 09:20
I didn't go shooting, I just get excited when anyone gets to have a good day at the range. I like to live vicariously through my "internet friends" as BC would call them.

Hey, I've got 250 "internet" facebook friends and am only really friends with a couple in real life. Would you say you're actual friends with all of your facebook friends?


Who's got the day off?

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I'd say I do, but I always have the day off, yay shift work! But, I'm glad that my wife has the day off!

BuffCyclist
01-20-2014, 09:22
And OBC, I have a SWFA 10x MilQuad MRAD with 0.1 mil clicks and it is by far my favorite scope EVAHHHH!!!

Granted, I just got it, but it is a beefy hunk of metal/glass, is very clear to look through and I love the reticle! Will definitely look at the SWFA brand for future scopes.

HoneyBadger
01-20-2014, 09:22
I should add... I have the day off from my usual job, but I am watching a few friends' kids for a few hours as something new we are trying: basically, instead of struggling to find babysitters, we just use each other when we need to. Today I'm building up some babysitting time for HB Jr for whenever Mrs. HoneyBadger and I need some alone time or want to go out without dragging a toddler along.

HoneyBadger
01-20-2014, 09:23
Hey, I've got 250 "internet" facebook friends and am only really friends with a couple in real life. Would you say you're actual friends with all of your facebook friends?

I have about 40 Facebook Friends. I have a whole bunch of Facebook acquaintances.

HoneyBadger
01-20-2014, 09:25
I have about 40 Facebook Friends. I have a whole bunch of Facebook acquaintances.
I actually have my Facebook friends and acquaintances separated by their access to what I post.

BuffCyclist
01-20-2014, 09:25
Well fine, would you rather I call you hoez acquaintances than internet friends? [Abused]

Gotta say, it feels like I'm married to you hoez, I say one thing that you take incorrectly and BAM! You throw it back in my face for days! [LOL]

bogie
01-20-2014, 09:31
Apparently there is a new indoor range close to me. I'm going to check it out today, if they are open.

bogie
01-20-2014, 09:32
Well fine, would you rather I call you hoez acquaintances than internet friends? [Abused]

Gotta say, it feels like I'm married to you hoez, I say one thing that you take incorrectly and BAM! You throw it back in my face for days! [LOL]

Thats what mcjunior is for... Deflect to the whipping boy!

HoneyBadger
01-20-2014, 09:46
Gotta say, it feels like I'm married to you hoez
If only you were so lucky...







[LOL]

wax_job
01-20-2014, 09:47
I'm trying to have a dream, like MLK wanted me to... But my boy won't let me sleep in

wax_job
01-20-2014, 09:48
So, I turned off my alarm and closed my eyes for just a second.......

two hours later, I wake up...

You had a dream!

TheBelly
01-20-2014, 10:49
I dreamed that this match ammo ain't gonna load itself.

i started with 50 rounds this morning, and I'll need another 200 before the match in February.

TheGrey
01-20-2014, 10:57
Just bopping in to say 'howdy' before heading to the stock show.

I'm still all keyed up about finding a decent range and shooting yesterday... :)

TheGrey
01-20-2014, 11:04
Eee. Thread killer? Sorry, guys.
Catch ya later.

HoneyBadger
01-20-2014, 11:12
Eee. Thread killer? Sorry, guys.
Catch ya later.
"It's not you darling, it's me" [ROFL1]


Have fun at the show!

waxthis
01-20-2014, 12:09
Who's got the day off?

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[pick-me]

bogie
01-20-2014, 12:43
"It's not you darling, it's me" [ROFL1]


Have fun at the show!

[flamingo]

bogie
01-20-2014, 12:45
I'm feeling like a lazy shitbag today. I finally just took a shower. I had to make myself presentable before going to.....well I don't know exactly...

waxthis
01-20-2014, 12:56
Nice!
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/21/uzeqaten.jpg

bogie
01-20-2014, 12:56
38 agents...

HoneyBadger
01-20-2014, 13:11
Nice!
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/21/uzeqaten.jpg
This was one of my favorites.

TheBelly
01-20-2014, 13:18
Who's got the day off?

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your mother, Trebek!!

bogie
01-20-2014, 13:56
Much better..

bogie
01-20-2014, 13:57
I finally got down to it and turned off the default tapatalk signature.

buffalobo
01-20-2014, 15:03
Need options for a cheap bipod for one of the minions .22 Savage. Harris and Atlas too expensive. Anybody got experience with Caldwell bipods?

Sent from my electronic ball and chain.

brutal
01-20-2014, 15:05
OBC,

Maybe Bogie and I can show off our scopes at Tanner Saturday?

HoneyBadger
01-20-2014, 15:20
I finally got down to it and turned off the default tapatalk signature.
Thank God... Those are super annoying.

Ridge
01-20-2014, 18:14
Need options for a cheap bipod for one of the minions .22 Savage. Harris and Atlas too expensive. Anybody got experience with Caldwell bipods?

Sent from my electronic ball and chain.

Rock Mount bipods are ~$20-30 and are basically Harris clones. They work fine. It's not like you're prying open fire doors with your bipod.

mcjhr
01-20-2014, 18:31
Hello hosers! Great day today. I actually BBQ'd!

bogie
01-20-2014, 18:34
OBC,

Maybe Bogie and I can show off our scopes at Tanner Saturday?

Hmmm, a contest. Race for pinks?

I'm traveling early Sunday, but if I have my ducks in a row, I may be able to hit up Tanner Saturday morning.

bogie
01-20-2014, 18:38
So did anybody hear from Jerry yet? He should be clean as a whistle by now..

[Toile2][Doctor][GasM][bad-banana][rockon]

Ridge
01-20-2014, 18:41
This was one of my favorites.

http://i.imgur.com/flf7Yrv.jpg

mcjhr
01-20-2014, 18:58
I think I liked seeing Brady loose more than seeing Denver win.

Ridge
01-20-2014, 18:58
https://scontent-a-pao.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/1545715_581543651926586_2046451651_n.jpg

brutal
01-20-2014, 19:07
So did anybody hear from Jerry yet? He should be clean as a whistle by now..

[Toile2][Doctor][GasM][bad-banana][rockon]

I hollered at him earlier, but all I heard back was an echo.

waxthis
01-20-2014, 19:29
Still no word on roberth....???

bogie
01-20-2014, 19:34
Somebody said Robert was taking a break from the forum and would be back soon.

waxthis
01-20-2014, 19:44
Ahhhhhh shit.

mcjhr
01-20-2014, 19:54
2 eggs over easy. Corn beef hash....in the broiler. And tater tots!

waxthis
01-20-2014, 19:56
2 eggs over easy. Corn beef hash....in the broiler. And tater tots!

I lovvvve corn beef hash!

TheBelly
01-20-2014, 19:57
Home made pizza for dinner.

mcjhr
01-20-2014, 20:01
Yes I am overweight. But still sexy!

BuffCyclist
01-20-2014, 20:19
Home made pizza for dinner.

Leftover homemade pizza for dinner on my signature honey wheat crust... its delicious!

OtterbatHellcat
01-20-2014, 20:53
Howdy fellers..

That morning tanner thing works for me, I can make it down there early.

Where you headed now, Bogie?

TheBelly
01-20-2014, 20:56
Big Bang theory marathon right now. Bazinga!

OtterbatHellcat
01-20-2014, 20:59
We're talking guns, not sex change

Oh, naw dude, you had that all wrong....it was a Penis Reduction procedure. I was tired of wearing out what under ware when I could actually find it, kept freaking out all the chicks because it's the wrong color for being that large, it was hell man.

Pretty simple, 12 down to a respectable 8....all good now. :D

OtterbatHellcat
01-20-2014, 21:02
Hey Belly.......good show.

All caught up now, and need to get to practicing, lesson tomorrow.

TheBelly
01-20-2014, 21:09
Mrs. Belly got me two new video cameras. Looks like I will now be able to have multiple angles in 1080 @ 30fps or 720 @ 60 fps (which is better for slow motion.