The post whore thread.

[brutal]

Here's my 250 yard, 5-shot group. I wasn't able to get down there to verify size, but 0.2 mils should be about 1.7". I'd say that today's range session yielded positive results.

http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af70/thebelly925/Mobile%20Uploads/B4BE5BD3-9CA6-4C35-9881-7F82294845FE_zpspoqrrnqm.jpg[/URL]

It's a little off camber.

[Great-Kazoo]

Well, I don't mind if ya'll chuckle at the different ways I don't know how to post a video...I'm just glad I know .... 1... now.

Second icon on the top right looked like a "thumbs down" thing to me, and using the task bar to post a video? Good for everyone that knows how to do that.. :)

2nd icon in from the right is a section of Film. OR 4th from the smiley icon going to the right. If you move your mouse over the icons, it gives you info .

[TheBelly]

It's a little off camber.

22x power is a little hard to get it straight behind the rifle, so I supported it on the tube.

Cripes, you complain a lot about my photos and videos. At least it comes across as complaining.

youre so crabby!!

[TheBelly]

Loose kid running around anywhere is a bad deal, in front of the firing line?

"Excuse me sir, but you and your party need to leave now....buh bye"


He was drinking around in the parking lot until his Gatorade bottle ended up flying in front of the line with the kid chasing after it. I yelled at the kid to stop, then yelled a cease fire.

the dad grabbed his kid and yelled and cursed the whole way back to the car. The range officer brought him his stuff.

[TheBelly]

I recognize that reticle but I don't know the rifle. Nice shooting today belly.
I was shooting my LMT MWS today. (.260 Remington)

[TheBelly]

Oh, and videos are uploading.

Brutal: if you want to watch, too, I won't mind.

[buffalobo]

Hoverines !

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[buffalobo]

Bogie, was it a bumpy ride into Denver today?

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[brutal]

22x power is a little hard to get it straight behind the rifle, so I supported it on the tube.

Cripes, you complain a lot about my photos and videos. At least it comes across as complaining.

youre so crabby!!

Just my snarky personality poking a little fun at others.

If it rubs you the wrong way, I'll just not comment further on your posts.

Is it necessary to put a smiley on every post?

[brutal]

Oh, and videos are uploading.

Brutal: if you want to watch, too, I won't mind.

I'm actually subscribed to your channel Belly, but since everything I post seems to be taken as a jab, I'll fade away quietly into the night.

And I'm taking my ball with me. [gohome]

Crabby? Yes, I'm a crabby old sombitch lately.

[buffalobo]

OMG, are we gonna run out of Smiley's? :eek: <panic>

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[brutal]

OMG, are we gonna run out of Smiley's? :eek: <panic> [panic]

Lobbed from my electronic ball and chain

FIFY

[TheBelly]

Just my snarky personality poking a little fun at others.

If it rubs you the wrong way, I'll just not comment further on your posts.

Is it necessary to put a smiley on every post?

Nope, if its all in jest: snark away!

[TheBelly]

I mean really. A guy who can dish it out but can't take it? I call those folks cry babies.

seriously.... Snark away, man!

[buffalobo]

See, already ran out of panic smileys on tapatalk.

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[buffalobo]

Where the hell am I supposed to get more of those?

Lobbed from my electronic ball and chain

[TheBelly]

Look harder

[TheBelly]

Demo video of bench shooting is up. It's in with the bench shooting instruction post.

[Great-Kazoo]

OMG, are we gonna run out of Smiley's? :eek: <panic>

Lobbed from my electronic ball and chain

here's my favorite Icon. Puts a smiley face on me every day.

http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/dj5YDlJb3PRMFhwuN4IaeA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Y2g9NDg1O2NyPTE7Y3c9ODYwO2R4PTA7ZH k9MDtmaT11bGNyb3A7aD00ODU7cT03NTt3PTg2MA--/http://l.yimg.com/os/publish-images/sports/2014-02-16/b8c7f840-96ca-11e3-a5fd-558f75c9bebe_627010201-ski-star-anna-fenninger-2kef.jpg

[Great-Kazoo]

For a close up

http://l1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/BKy1ptqF49HW89QbEApnJg--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Y2g9NDg1O2NyPTE7Y3c9ODYwO2R4PTA7ZH k9MDtmaT11bGNyb3A7aD00ODU7cT03NTt3PTg2MA--/http://l.yimg.com/os/publish-images/sports/2014-02-16/b8ca9050-96ca-11e3-88c3-fd06a8d51d3b_1485997_617253974976888_2109384193_o. jpg

[buffalobo]

Here kitty, kitty.

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[BuffCyclist]

And....... Range is now shut down because some idiot's kid just ran in front of the firing line.

Awesome.

How ironic. I had a rifle pointed at my head (well, general direction at about 10ft), and when I confronted the guy and told him to point his muzzle down range, he got all "there's nothing to worry about". I responded with "if there wasn't anything to worry about, I wouldn't have said anything, point it down range". He huffed and puffed then pointed it straight up.

It was some old fart with two younger kids, he was showing them his "great grandpas rifle that was handed down to me by my grandad and father who served with it in world war 1 yada yada yada". I was about to ask him if he'd like a muzzle pointing in his face (in the form of my CCW).

[waxthis]

Here kitty, kitty.

Lobbed from my electronic ball and chain

My other Biatch....
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/17/he6ubepa.jpg

[HoneyBadger]

...there's always at least 1 weird cat guy... ;)

[BuffCyclist]

Oh yea, and on another note, it looks like I'm definitely buying a Shield 9 soon for the wife [facepalm]

Also, XS Big Dot sights SUCK!!! We couldn't get that thing to shoot at anything we aimed at, at any distance. We tried bottom of dot in top of trough in rear site, fire 5" low and not in the middle of the big dot like its supposed to, then middle dot in trough, fired 5" high. Top of dot below trough, still 5" high. After looking at their website, I see how its supposed to be shot, but that's not how it was behaving for us.

[buffalobo]

My other Biatch....
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/17/he6ubepa.jpg

That cat makes me nervous. Do you sleep with it in the house?



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[TheBelly]

Oh yea, and on another note, it looks like I'm definitely buying a Shield 9 soon for the wife [facepalm]

Also, XS Big Dot sights SUCK!!! We couldn't get that thing to shoot at anything we aimed at, at any distance. We tried bottom of dot in top of trough in rear site, fire 5" low and not in the middle of the big dot like its supposed to, then middle dot in trough, fired 5" high. Top of dot below trough, still 5" high. After looking at their website, I see how its supposed to be shot, but that's not how it was behaving for us.


Do they make different height rear sights?

[BuffCyclist]

Do they make different height rear sights?

Didn't see them on their website, just white rear I or tritium rear I and both were tritium front dot.

[HoneyBadger]

Sorry BC. I have the factory night sights on my Glock 19 and love them.

[BuffCyclist]

Oh yea, this was just a friend's Shield we were borrowing for the day, gotta return it tomorrow. He swears by them, but says they're only defensive sights and even he can never get decent groups (which in my opinion, makes practicing hard).

Mrs BC liked the Trijicon HD Orange night sights on my M&P40c, so we may end up getting her those (she liked the idea of night sights), but will start with the pistol and a holster.

[TheBelly]

Oh yea, this was just a friend's Shield we were borrowing for the day, gotta return it tomorrow. He swears by them, but says they're only defensive sights and even he can never get decent groups (which in my opinion, makes practicing hard).

Mrs BC liked the Trijicon HD Orange night sights on my M&P40c, so we may end up getting her those (she liked the idea of night sights), but will start with the pistol and a holster.


Hes probably talking about 'defensive' distances: 7 yards and closer. I had a set of those on a G39. They worked well in that application. Target sights they are not.

[HoneyBadger]

If you can't shoot decent groups at the range, you're never going to be able to do it under pressure.

[BuffCyclist]

Hes probably talking about 'defensive' distances: 7 yards and closer. I had a set of those on a G39. They worked well in that application. Target sights they are not.

Yup, exactly what he talked about. And I agree, they work well for getting on paper. However, I'm more likely to practice with a given pistol if I can shoot it at the range and get good groups. If not, the "meh why bother" mentality sets in because you can always get them on paper. Not that I would actually advocate that, just saying I don't see the point.


If you can't shoot decent groups at the range, you're never going to be able to do it under pressure.

Exactly, and less likely to practice with it. What's the fun in shooting a pistol and not trying to get small groups? [Dunno]

[TheBelly]

If you can't shoot decent groups at the range, you're never going to be able to do it under pressure.

Whats the definition of 'decent'?

if I can hit a 5" paper plate that is posted over the high thoracic area of a human sized silhouette, then I think it'll be ok.

[BuffCyclist]

Whats the definition of 'decent'?

if I can hit a 5" paper plate that is posted over the high thoracic area of a human sized silhouette, then I think it'll be ok.

Yup, she'd aim at the head and hit 10" low sometimes. Started aiming lower on the target and then it'd hit high for some reason. I thought she was shooting it weird, tried it and had the same problems.

We then shot my M&P40c for a while and she was getting 1" groups (just off of a 2" orange sticky dot) with each mag at 10yds. I was impressed. Until I nailed the center of it on the first try [Tooth]

[TheBelly]

Exactly, and less likely to practice with it. What's the fun in shooting a pistol and not trying to get small groups? [Dunno]

Its a tool that can save your life by (possibly) ending someone else's.

anyone that's scored me at a ipsc shoot will know that I ask only two questions:

1) did I hit all the bad guys?

2) did I shoot any hostages?

i REALLY beat myself up about those two questions.

[BuffCyclist]

Don't get me wrong, they were always dead on horizontally but it was definitely vertically challenged.

[TheBelly]

Yup, she'd aim at the head and hit 10" low sometimes. Started aiming lower on the target and then it'd hit high for some reason. I thought she was shooting it weird, tried it and had the same problems.

We then shot my M&P40c for a while and she was getting 1" groups (just off of a 2" orange sticky dot) with each mag at 10yds. I was impressed. Until I nailed the center of it on the first try [Tooth]


Is this same gun the one you're going to buy?

[BuffCyclist]

Installing gable vents on the house tomorrow. Hope I don't run into any problems.

Then again, I get to play with a reciprocating saw, what could go wrong?! [Dunno]

[BuffCyclist]

Is this same gun the one you're going to buy?

Nope, he isn't selling it, just let her borrow it for the day to take to the range and see if she likes the platform. We'll buy new because no one locally has them for under $500. Yes. That LGS that has everything marked up has them for just over $500. At least, last I checked.

[HoneyBadger]

I can hit a sheet of paper about 80% of the time with my G19 from 50yds while standing. It took me several thousand rounds and more than 5 years of practice to achieve this. I don't know what your measure of a "decent" group is, but if someone is having difficulty hitting a sheet of paper at "defensive distances" while at the range, I don't want them anywhere near me while they are carrying.

...just my braggy $.02

[BuffCyclist]

How long was your range shut down Belly after the stupid kid?

Other than that, did you have a fun and productive range trip?

[BuffCyclist]

I can hit a sheet of paper about 80% of the time with my G19 from 50yds while standing. It took me several thousand rounds and more than 5 years of practice to achieve this. I don't know what your measure of a "decent" group is, but if someone is having difficulty hitting a sheet of paper at "defensive distances" while at the range, I don't want them anywhere near me while they are carrying.

...just my braggy $.02

Agreed. During my 2yr state mandated refresher course (don't get me started), my CCW instructor had me start shooting at 50yds (well, it was closer to 45yds but still) and I was amazed at how well I could shoot. They were mostly within a 6" circle, but hitting the left shoulder when I was aiming for the head.

When I can't do that at 10yds, something weird is going on.

eta: Probably closer to 8", didn't have a tape measure but 6" sounds pretty small and I'm not THAT good of a shooter [LOL]

[HoneyBadger]

How's your night going BC?

[BuffCyclist]

Getting very lazy. Went to the range earlier, every pistol lane and all general purpose lanes were used. So we left and went to the coffee shop to get some drinks and wait, then we went back and got a GP lane. When we got home, we took dogs on their walks, dinner, and the lots of relaxing.

You? Any exploring in the X?

[BuffCyclist]

Oh yea, it got surprisingly warm today, was over 81*F this afternoon. Too hot, too soon.

[HoneyBadger]

Getting very lazy. Went to the range earlier, every pistol lane and all general purpose lanes were used. So we left and went to the coffee shop to get some drinks and wait, then we went back and got a GP lane. When we got home, we took dogs on their walks, dinner, and the lots of relaxing.

You? Any exploring in the X?
I think we're going to try to make it to the range tomorrow to shoot some steel and get some fresh air. We spend way too much time indoors.

I just got the X back from getting the tow package put on it along with getting the windows tinted and a clear bra put on it. Now it's ready to rock. :D

according to the add video button, I should be able to embed a Facebook video, but I can't figure it out...

[BuffCyclist]

Awesome, range time is fun! I'd like to get back there again this week but it might be tough with my schedule the next few weeks.

And nice goodies for the X!

[TheBelly]

How long was your range shut down Belly after the stupid kid?

Other than that, did you have a fun and productive range trip?


Half hour shutdown. Just long enough for that guy to clear the property.

i have video. I've asked a mod to check one of them over before I post it. VERY productive day. 150 rounds of kneeling with a sling.

[HoneyBadger]

Awesome, range time is fun! I'd like to get back there again this week but it might be tough with my schedule the next few weeks.

And nice goodies for the X!

Yeah, I need to find somewhere new to go offroading that is somewhere relatively close.

[BuffCyclist]

Gotta put range stuff away for the night and do a little picking up around the house.

Goodnight!

[HoneyBadger]

Today I deprimed and resized more than 1k .223 cases today, and I loaded up about 30 rds to test out tomorrow. 55gr "Dogtown" fmj bullets with 24.8gr H335 and varying OALs. I really just want to see how the OAL impacts my accuracy.

[Great-Kazoo]

Whats the definition of 'decent'?

if I can hit a 5" paper plate that is posted over the high thoracic area of a human sized silhouette, then I think it'll be ok.

COM that's what i strive for consistently. Paper doesn't shoot back.

[Great-Kazoo]

I can hit a sheet of paper about 80% of the time with my G19 from 50yds while standing. It took me several thousand rounds and more than 5 years of practice to achieve this. I don't know what your measure of a "decent" group is, but if someone is having difficulty hitting a sheet of paper at "defensive distances" while at the range, I don't want them anywhere near me while they are carrying.

...just my braggy $.02

What do you define as "defensive distances" ?

[HoneyBadger]

I'll also be testing to see if there is an appreciable difference in groupings between hand-loading my powder in each round vs using the Lee autodisk powder measure.

at my skill level for both shooting and reloading, I don't expect to see a difference.

[HoneyBadger]

What do you define as "defensive distances" ?
For a handgun, anything less than 50yds. If the threat is further than 50yds away, evading or using a rifle is probably more appropriate option if possible.

[Great-Kazoo]

For a handgun, anything less than 50yds. If the threat is further than 50yds away, evading or using a rifle is probably more appropriate option if possible.

Less than 50, how less? FWIW: you start engaging threats @ 25-50 yds , with a hand gun, you better have a damn good lawyer. OR be stuck between a rock and a hard place.
Want to up your skills. Start practicing @ 10 yds , shooting from cover.

[HoneyBadger]

Maybe I didn't make this clear, but evading is always option #1. The last thing I ever want to do is shoot somebody, regardless of their intentions.

[Great-Kazoo]

Maybe I didn't make this clear, but evading is always option #1. The last thing I ever want to do is shoot somebody, regardless of their intentions.

Kind of vague. Then again you're not a poser, either.

[jerrymrc]

OMG, are we gonna run out of Smiley's? :eek: <panic>

Lobbed from my electronic ball and chain

I guess I have to get more. 20K smileys and they are never enough. [Flower] That's OK, I found more to add in the next couple of days. [LOL]

[Great-Kazoo]

I guess I have to get more. 20K smileys and they are never enough. [Flower] That's OK, I found more to add in the next couple of days. [LOL]

Perhaps you should be called the iconator
https://sp3.yimg.com/ib/th?id=H.4664687932473795&pid=15.1

[HoneyBadger]

I guess I have to get more. 20K smileys and they are never enough. [Flower] That's OK, I found more to add in the next couple of days. [LOL]
Speaking of smilies, how come the order that they show up when you click the "add smiley" button keeps changing?

[Great-Kazoo]

Speaking of smilies, how come the order that they show up when you click the "add smiley" button keeps changing?

It's a test, weeds out the smokers ;)

[OtterbatHellcat]

Pistol at 50 yards? I wouldn't even try that....I'd be lucky to get a "group" at 30 yards with either of my glocks.

But, I'm also investing in some training this summer.

[OtterbatHellcat]

Howdy ho's.

[Great-Kazoo]

Pistol at 50 yards? I wouldn't even try that....I'd be lucky to get a "group" at 30 yards with either of my glocks.

But, I'm also investing in some training this summer.

Quals are @ 25 yds and closer. IMO, Less stress about shot placement, when practicing makes it easier. Like learning guitar no ones perfect first few times out. My ol lady stresses out of she's not X-ringing. 2 mags later shes frustrated and done for the day. Me, as long as i can maintain COM i'm GTG.

Next time you're out shooting. Turn the targets around. Instead of shooting for the black, just shoot at the paper. I like using 9" paper plates. No "target" just a round place to put bullets.

[OtterbatHellcat]

Oh we've stapled our fair share of paper plates up...inexpensive.

Big magic marker + on them.

[OtterbatHellcat]

I'm wondering if Hound is actually Nynco.

[bogie]

Bogie, was it a bumpy ride into Denver today?

Lobbed from my electronic ball and chain

Yes it was! And the lady in front of me kept complaining that her window was too hot. She thought it was going to bring the plane down [facepalm]

[OtterbatHellcat]

Yo Bogie...

Meant to say earlier, welcome home.

[bogie]

Yup, she'd aim at the head and hit 10" low sometimes.

That's what she said...

[bogie]

Yo Bogie...

Meant to say earlier, welcome home.

Hey obc! How ya doing?

[OtterbatHellcat]

Okay man.....though I did laugh at your wildebeast story earlier, I also felt bad for ya brother...lol

[Mick-Boy]

I like stretching the distance on pistols. Hitting C-zone steel at 100M+ isn't that big a feat. It's a fun way to see where your capabilities really fall off under ideal circumstances.

For most training I use IPSC/IDPA target zones or B8 repair centers. The timer and the scoring rings don't lie. You want to be faster, beat the timer. You want to be more accurate, beat the score. The trick is being able to balance the two when you need to.

[OtterbatHellcat]

The wif is coming down with some kind of Goo....I'm hoping to avoid catching it myself.

[OtterbatHellcat]

I like stretching the distance on pistols

I look forward to when that wouldn't be an exercise in futility for me.

[buffalobo]

Yes it was! And the lady in front of me kept complaining that her window was too hot. She thought it was going to bring the plane down [facepalm]

It was bumpy on the ground too. Just no sudden shear or down draft.

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[TheBelly]

Next time you're out shooting. Turn the targets around. Instead of shooting for the black, just shoot at the paper. I like using 9" paper plates. No "target" just a round place to put bullets.

This is excellent advice.

[Mick-Boy]

I like stretching the distance on pistols

I look forward to when that wouldn't be an exercise in futility for me.


If you don't mind the drive maybe you can make it to the range with Dan512 and I sometime. We usually close out the day doing a walk back on steel.

[OtterbatHellcat]

If you don't mind the drive maybe you can make it to the range with Dan512 and I sometime. We usually close out the day doing a walk back on steel.

That would be cool, thanks for the invite.

[waxthis]

That cat makes me nervous. Do you sleep with it in the house?



Lobbed from my electronic ball and chain

Lets just say no one has EVER broke in.

[waxthis]

Long VB day today...Going into the last day tomorrow as the #3 seed...Night all.

[Great-Kazoo]

Lets just say no one has EVER broke in.

Fridays taco keeping you up? OR THAT FUC N TRAIN!

[OtterbatHellcat]

Night Wax, and congrats to the girls for getting this far. Wishing them luck tomorrow.

[TheBelly]

I posted a demonstration video on sling work.

the target is a 10" plate at 250yds.

[OtterbatHellcat]

Yo Belly.........thx,

*goes to look*

[OtterbatHellcat]

Where did your thread go, Belly?

[Great-Kazoo]

Where did your thread go, Belly?

Page 2

https://www.ar-15.co/threads/125901-TheBelly-s-Videos

[OtterbatHellcat]

dammit...I did a search under Bellys videos. Thought they moved it or something.

[OtterbatHellcat]

Sheeeit...I'm out of time and gotta hit the rack.

G nite ho bags.

Peace

[TheBelly]

I think it's about to move over to the training forum.

[TheBelly]

Later, OBC!

[TheBelly]

No night time ho-ing? I'm disappointed!

[buffalobo]

No night time ho-ing? I'm disappointed!

We were waiting for you. [flamingo]

[bogie]

Howdy doody and good morning ho bags.

[bogie]

I get to pick up my pup from the kennel today. they're closed on Sundays so I couldn't get her yesterday. They squeeze all the blood out of you that they can....

[BuffCyclist]

That's what she said...

You know, I woke up to a Tapatalk message, saying "Bogie quoted your post in ..." and thought [WooHoo] someone is engaging me in dialogue first thing in the morning!!

Logged on and this is what I get. [Shake]

Yes, its funny, but I was hoping for a serious reply and not to get made fun of. [gohome]

[BuffCyclist]

Speaking of smilies, how come the order that they show up when you click the "add smiley" button keeps changing?

I'm pretty sure the first page changes based on the frequency they're used. When there were lots of laws being proposed for various reasons, the top ones were [facepalm][panic][fail] and the headbanging the wall one.

Now, its [gohome][mop][werdo]

[BuffCyclist]

Well hos, wish I could stick around and make fun of the lot of ya today, but I've got a reciprocating saw to go play with.

But don't tell the wife, if she asks, I'm installing some gable vents. [Tooth]

[HoneyBadger]

...but I've got a reciprocating saw to go play with.


That's what she said?

[Dunno]

[BuffCyclist]

That's what she said?

[Dunno]

[gohome]

[Great-Kazoo]

Well hos, wish I could stick around and make fun of the lot of ya today, but I've got a reciprocating saw to go play with.

But don't tell the wife, if she asks, I'm installing some gable vents. [Tooth]

Pointy side down. You're in NM, so an average project shouldn't take you less than 30 days.

[bogie]

You know, I woke up to a Tapatalk message, saying "Bogie quoted your post in ..." and thought [WooHoo] someone is engaging me in dialogue first thing in the morning!!

Logged on and this is what I get. [Shake]

Yes, its funny, but I was hoping for a serious reply and not to get made fun of. [gohome]

Sorry I let you down buddy.


That's what she said?

[Dunno]


[gohome]

There is such a device, although I don't have first hand experience with it (at either end).

[bogie]

Why can't most women keep their fingers off the damn trigger?

[bogie]

Who's got the day off? How best to celebrate this day and honor the father of our country?

"Donate" a stack of 50 $1 bills to the local exotic entertainment establishment?

Who else has ideas?

[bogie]

Off topic, but does anybody have experience with:

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/462151/yankee-hill-machine-gas-block-low-profile-clamp-on-ar-15-lr-308-standard-barrel-0750-inside-diameter-steel-matte?cm_vc=ProductFinding#

[mcjhr]

Poppycock and fiddlesticks!

[brutal]

Get off my lawn!

[mcjhr]

Get off my lawn!

You sassin me?!

[brutal]

You sassin me?!

No, I'm just crabby.

[BuffCyclist]

Pointy side down. You're in NM, so an average project shouldn't take you less than 30 days.

One gable vent installed. Knee is hurting me too much to do the other one today, so maybe next monday.

Besides, I'm using my ladder to help hold the current gable vent against the house while the glue dries.

[mcjhr]

No, I'm just crabby.

Oh. Me too!

[Monky]

Trying to decide. Integrally suppressed 10/22 or an 8" tromix built saiga...


Sent by a free-range electronic weasel, with no sense of personal space.

[Great-Kazoo]

One gable vent installed. Knee is hurting me too much to do the other one today, so maybe next monday.

Besides, I'm using my ladder to help hold the current gable vent against the house while the glue dries.

Not screwing them in?

[Great-Kazoo]

Trying to decide. Integrally suppressed 10/22 or an 8" tromix built saiga...


Sent by a free-range electronic weasel, with no sense of personal space.

Which will you use more? I'd go with the internal suppressed 10/22 bbl. This way IF you decided it's not for you. The action can be sold as a separate unit.

[BuffCyclist]

Pointy side down. You're in NM, so an average project shouldn't take you less than 30 days.

And wait, pointy side down? On the reciprocating saw? That's probably why I burned through two blades (ground the teeth completely off). And here I just figured they were disposable. [Dunno]

[BuffCyclist]

Not screwing them in?

I will, gluing the outside flange to the stucco to make it water tight (will go back tomorrow and run a bead around the edge to really seal it up).

I built a frame on the inside and once the glue dries, I'll go in from the inside and screw them into the wood framing to secure it. I have some bungie cords pulling the gable vent inwards from the attic, but the ladder is just a safety precaution to apply a little extra pressure inwards.

[mcjhr]

So I got 32ozs of bacon grease....what the hell should I do with it?

[BuffCyclist]

Bacon scented candles? [Dunno]

[bogie]

So I got 32ozs of bacon grease....what the hell should I do with it?

Drink it?

[mcjhr]

Hah that is disgusting!

[mcjhr]

Bacon scented candles? [Dunno]

Not a bad idea!

[bogie]

Not a bad idea!

I liked mine better. If you want your house to smell like bacon, cooking a few pounds would be the way to go!

[mcjhr]

I'd have to spoon feed it to myself, its congealed. Should I lube my rifle with it?

[bogie]

I'd have to spoon feed it to myself, its congealed. Should I lube my rifle with it?

Lard melts between 85 and 105 deg_F. You just need to hold the jar under your armpit for about 10 minutes to get it flowing [LOL]

[mcjhr]

Is drink it for $100.....

[BuffCyclist]

Is drink it for $100.....

I thought you were trying to get INTO shape. Besides, you'd probably end up spending more than $100 after a visit to the ER.

And about my candle idea, since I *think* bacon grease is flammable, you probably don't need a wick. [Awesom]

[mcjhr]

Getting in shape sucks! Rather suckle from the Obama teet. ;)

What happened to your knee BC?

[BuffCyclist]

I had surgery in August, tore my meniscus (for the second time) but during work. Thankfully, workers comp paid for the entire surgery and physical therapy.

That knee has had the medial meniscus torn twice, torn ACL (minor), torn MCL (minor), stretched LCL, bone grafting on femur after tumor removal.

If I climb too many stairs, bend down awkwardly with knee out to the side (like doing squats instead of keeping knees pointed straight out), it'll start getting painful. Kneeling while working in the attic was too much for it.

[brutal]

So I got 32ozs of bacon grease....what the hell should I do with it?

It puts the bacon grease on its skin.

[brutal]

Bacon scented candles? [Dunno]

Win

Except they'd probably go rancid unless you burned them completely and that's nasty.

[wctriumph]

I'm sitting here in my chair, icing my knee after therapy, reading this forum and watching the Supercross from TX that I DVR;d last night and my foot has gone numb. Damn it, now I have to go walk around to wake it up. Off line for a few.


TEA

III

[Great-Kazoo]

So I got 32ozs of bacon grease....what the hell should I do with it?

stick in frige and save for important things, like cooking potatoEs, eggs, green chili, . it makes a nice base in baking dishes for skinless chicken breast, Use in mexican rice, FRIED rice. on & on. Use your imagination.

WORSE CASE SCENARIO: hand out to kids in neighborhoods where people let their dogs loose.

[HoneyBadger]

Off topic, but does anybody have experience with:

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/462151/yankee-hill-machine-gas-block-low-profile-clamp-on-ar-15-lr-308-standard-barrel-0750-inside-diameter-steel-matte?cm_vc=ProductFinding#
Yes, No complaints. Works as expected.

[HoneyBadger]

Who's got the day off? How best to celebrate this day and honor the father of our country?

"Donate" a stack of 50 $1 bills to the local exotic entertainment establishment?

Who else has ideas?
I went and shot guns. :)

[mcjhr]

Naps rule!

[HoneyBadger]

I tested some of my first reloads and came to the bittersweet conclusion that nothing I did made any difference.

I worked up in .5gr increments of H335 from 23gr up to 25gr and I was shooting approximately 1.2" groups or better with each combination. Case length was 1.750" and OAL was 2.230" for every round. Dogtown 55gr FMJs

I also conducted another test:

I made up 10 rounds with identical brass: same stamp, same year, same weight. Each round had 24.5gr of H335 hand measured and then re-measured. Case length was 1.750" and OAL was 2.230" for all ten rounds. MidwayUSA "Dogtown" 55gr FMJ bullets. (Group A)

Then I made up another 10 rounds with mixed brass (FC, PMC, AD, REM etc headstamps from different years). These rounds were 24.8gr of H335 as measured by the Lee AutoDisk Powder Measure. Case length was between 1.748 and 1.7515 and OAL was between 2.226 and 2.24 Both of these measurements were intentionally but randomly varied so I could measure their effects. (Group B) I wanted to see if it was worth the extra time and effort to make sure everything was "perfect".

Methodology:
I used a 10rd Magpul PMag for all tests. I sat at a wooden bench and used sandbags to support the rifle. All rounds were fired from a 14.7" 1:7 twist barrel of unknown manufacture. 5.56 chamber with approximately 2k fmj rounds through it.
Temp was 57F with 0-5kt variable breeze. Humidity was <20%. Sun was out and Prairie Dogs were hiding. ;D

I started by firing 10 rounds of PMC X-Tac 5.56 to practice my fundamentals and warm up the gun.

Immediately following the fundamentals review, I fired 5 rounds from Group A at the center of the paper plate. Then I loaded the magazine with 5 rounds from Group B and fired them two ticks (approximately 2 inches) up from the center of the plate. It was when I examined the paper plate that I figured I probably should have fixed my zero before the test. [facepalm]

Results:
Group A may have produced slightly better results with 1 "flier", but it's impossible to say from this test if the extra effort at the reloading bench was worth it. More testing is necessary. :D [AR15]

Conclusion:
The results of this test are 100% dependent on my shooting abilities, which are mediocre at best. Maybe a better shooter with a better gun could have given more impressive results.


"Group A"
http://i.imgur.com/nup7WQQl.png

"Group B"
http://i.imgur.com/I87sJyvl.png

[Great-Kazoo]

I tested some of my first reloads and came to the bittersweet conclusion that nothing I did made any difference.

I worked up in .5gr increments of H335 from 23gr up to 25gr and I was shooting approximately 1.2" groups or better with each combination. Case length was 1.750" and OAL was 2.230" for every round. Dogtown 55gr FMJs

I also conducted another test:

I made up 10 rounds with identical brass: same stamp, same year, same weight. Each round had 24.5gr of H335 hand measured and then re-measured. Case length was 1.750" and OAL was 2.230" for all ten rounds. MidwayUSA "Dogtown" 55gr FMJ bullets. (Group A)

Then I made up another 10 rounds with mixed brass (FC, PMC, AD, REM etc headstamps from different years). Case length was between 1.748 and 1.7515 and OAL was between 2.226 and 2.24 Both of these measurements were intentionally but randomly varied so I could measure their effects. (Group B) I wanted to see if it was worth the extra time and effort to make sure everything was "perfect".

Methodology:
I used a 10rd Magpul PMag for all tests. I sat at a wooden bench and used sandbags to support the rifle. All rounds were fired from a 14.7" 1:7 twist barrel of unknown manufacture. 5.56 chamber with approximately 2k fmj rounds through it.
Temp was 57F with 0-5kt variable breeze. Humidity was <20%. Sun was out and Prairie Dogs were hiding. ;D

I started by firing 10 rounds of PMC X-Tac 5.56 to practice my fundamentals and warm up the gun.

Immediately following the fundamentals review, I fired 5 rounds from Group A at the center of the paper plate. Then I loaded the magazine with 5 rounds from Group B and fired them two ticks (approximately 2 inches) up from the center of the plate. It was when I examined the paper plate that I figured I probably should have fixed my zero before the test. [facepalm]

Results:
Group A may have produced slightly better results with 1 "flier", but it's impossible to say from this test if the extra effort at the reloading bench was worth it. More testing is necessary. :D [AR15]

Conclusion:
The results of this test are 100% dependent on my shooting abilities, which are mediocre at best. Maybe a better shooter with a better gun could have given more impressive results.


"Group A"
http://i.imgur.com/nup7WQQl.png

"Group B"
http://i.imgur.com/I87sJyvl.png

If the difference it that negligible group wise. use the low end of your powder measure. Why waste .5 gr per round when it's not that much different. 23gr works as well as 25. keep it @ 23

[HoneyBadger]

Those two groups had the same amount of powder for this test, but my groups with 23gr were just as good (as far as my shooting abilities go) as the 25gr groups.

I forgot to mention it, so I added it to the original post: For "Group B" I used the Lee AutoDisk powder measure instead of hand-measuring the powder for each round.

[bogie]

Yes, No complaints. Works as expected.

Thanks for the info buddy! Ima buy me one.


For "Group B" I used the Lee AutoDisk powder measure instead of hand-measuring the powder for each round.

/gasp!

[bogie]

HB, was your distance 100 yards? I didn't see that in the post.

Also, are you using stock trigger and is your rifle freefloated?

[BuffCyclist]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITjIb0h512s

[BuffCyclist]

HB, nice science fair writeup [Poke]

On a more serious note, if you didn't see any difference in accuracy, go with the lower end of the powder charge. Or, if your auto-dropper measurements were slightly less accurate than the hand weighed, decide if you really want to weigh each charge for 55gr 223 plinker rounds.

I ran a similar test with my 223, IMR-4895 (all I could find locally), and Xtreme 55gr FMJ's. Started at 18 up to 24.5, and 22 ended up being the sweet spot. Went back and ran up and down in .1gr increments, 22.0 was the most accurate of those and I can easily drop those from my powder dropper, so that is what won out.

[HoneyBadger]

HB, was your distance 100 yards? I didn't see that in the post.

Also, are you using stock trigger and is your rifle freefloated?
Yes, yes, and yes.

[Great-Kazoo]

Yes, yes, and yes.

Oh God YES!

https://sp1.yimg.com/ib/th?id=H.4671254945205865&pid=15.1

[OtterbatHellcat]

It puts the bacon grease on its skin.

lmao

[OtterbatHellcat]

BC, that video is funny.......but if that's really you, man, that's hilarious.

[OtterbatHellcat]

Howdy fellers.

I've only had 6 cigarettes so far today, and that's really good for me. Prolly have 1 or 2 more before bed, but under 10 in roughly 18 hours would be outstanding for me. I'm proud of that, and I'll try for less tomorrow and on down that road.

[BuffCyclist]

BC, that video is funny.......but if that's really you, man, that's hilarious.

Yup, thats my mug and my minty flavored house [LOL]

[OtterbatHellcat]

BC, that's awesome, your turn and glance to the camera was perfectly timed, and I LOVE the headband flashlight. Nice idea, and thanks for doin' that, cracked me up.

[ROFL1]

[HoneyBadger]

HB, nice science fair writeup [Poke]
Ha! I expected as much outta you! [LOL]

yeah, I might go down a little more and see how low I can go. 23gr was the "starting point" in my Lyman reloading manual, so I went with that. If I can get it down to 22 without losing any accuracy, I'll be really happy because that will save a significant amount of powder over 25gr in the long haul.

I am not a good enough shooter to notice a difference between hand measured and using the Lee AutoDisk powder measure. I would like to get to the point where I am a good enough shooter to notice the difference, but I think I need to invest in a better gun and reloading components eventually.

[HoneyBadger]

Howdy fellers.

I've only had 6 cigarettes so far today, and that's really good for me. Prolly have 1 or 2 more before bed, but under 10 in roughly 18 hours would be outstanding for me. I'm proud of that, and I'll try for less tomorrow and on down that road.
Awesome! It's been 6 years and change since I had my last cigarette, but I wasn't that heavily invested. I was only have 3-4 every day.

Good for you.

[OtterbatHellcat]

Heya HB...we haven't gleaned all that much from messing with different powders and projectile weights ourselves yet... but it's comin' along, still learning.

Biggest damn hold up lately is the shitty weather mucking up the places to shoot at.

[OtterbatHellcat]

Awesome! It's been 6 years and change since I had my last cigarette, but I wasn't that heavily invested. I was only have 3-4 every day.

Good for you.

Thanks, and congrats to your success. If I can keep whittling it down to where you were, then I can just quit altogether.

[HoneyBadger]

Heya HB...we haven't gleaned all that much from messing with different powders and projectile weights ourselves yet... but it's comin' along, still learning.

Biggest damn hold up lately is the shitty weather mucking up the places to shoot at.
Yeah, I'm still very new at this game. I planned on shooting those reloads back in December but then the weather has been garbage ever since.

[Great-Kazoo]

Yeah, I'm still very new at this game. I planned on shooting those reloads back in December but then the weather has been garbage ever since.

I know a good back stop in Calhan.

[BuffCyclist]

Ha! I expected as much outta you! [LOL]

yeah, I might go down a little more and see how low I can go. 23gr was the "starting point" in my Lyman reloading manual, so I went with that. If I can get it down to 22 without losing any accuracy, I'll be really happy because that will save a significant amount of powder over 25gr in the long haul.

I am not a good enough shooter to notice a difference between hand measured and using the Lee AutoDisk powder measure. I would like to get to the point where I am a good enough shooter to notice the difference, but I think I need to invest in a better gun and reloading components eventually.

Yea, I know the starting amounts exist for a reason, but I still don't quite trust them and would rather start lower. Just the other day I was going to load some according to my manual, but my manual maxed out where IMR load data from their website STARTED. So if I had only checked the IMR load data website, if I started below their starting, I wouldn't have had problems.

And I was the same way. My AR load is at 100yds with open sights. If I recall, I was shooting pretty dang close to 1", maybe 1.5", which was pretty good. If I was using a scoped AR, I'm sure I could have noticed a difference with the loads. But I was looking for something that would cycle my rifle, have decent accuracy and just a default load. I'm sure I could notice a difference at 200yds, but I don't have a scoped AR and while I could use irons at that distance, I just don't enjoy it all that much. We'll see though if I enjoy it once I get into long distance shooting though.

[HoneyBadger]

I know a good back stop in Calhan.
NOT THE WINDOWS!!!!!

[ROFL3][ROFL3][ROFL3]

[BuffCyclist]

BC, that's awesome, your turn and glance to the camera was perfectly timed, and I LOVE the headband flashlight. Nice idea, and thanks for doin' that, cracked me up.

[ROFL1]

My wife was taking pictures, didn't realize until later she got a video of it which was perfectly timed! And thanks, thats my observing headlight. It has a flip-down red filter to not destroy my night vision, but I can only use it with one instrument because the other is more sensitive in the red.

[Great-Kazoo]

NOT THE WINDOWS!!!!!

[ROFL3][ROFL3][ROFL3]


To date, that is till one of the funniest moments shooting guns i have ever been a part of.

[BuffCyclist]

But HB, OBC, whatever you do with reloading, make sure you take GOOD NOTES!

I have pages upon pages of notes in my computer (text files) where I write down everything that I do, test out, etc. Because a negative result is still a result. And if I get that combo power/bullet again down the road and need to know where to start, at least I have bad data and know what doesn't work.

But I'm sure you both do that already.

[brutal]

I tested some of my first reloads and came to the bittersweet conclusion that nothing I did made any difference.

I worked up in .5gr increments of H335 from 23gr up to 25gr and I was shooting approximately 1.2" groups or better with each combination. Case length was 1.750" and OAL was 2.230" for every round. Dogtown 55gr FMJs

I also conducted another test:

I made up 10 rounds with identical brass: same stamp, same year, same weight. Each round had 24.5gr of H335 hand measured and then re-measured. Case length was 1.750" and OAL was 2.230" for all ten rounds. MidwayUSA "Dogtown" 55gr FMJ bullets. (Group A)

Then I made up another 10 rounds with mixed brass (FC, PMC, AD, REM etc headstamps from different years). These rounds were 24.8gr of H335 as measured by the Lee AutoDisk Powder Measure. Case length was between 1.748 and 1.7515 and OAL was between 2.226 and 2.24 Both of these measurements were intentionally but randomly varied so I could measure their effects. (Group B) I wanted to see if it was worth the extra time and effort to make sure everything was "perfect".

Methodology:
I used a 10rd Magpul PMag for all tests. I sat at a wooden bench and used sandbags to support the rifle. All rounds were fired from a 14.7" 1:7 twist barrel of unknown manufacture. 5.56 chamber with approximately 2k fmj rounds through it.
Temp was 57F with 0-5kt variable breeze. Humidity was <20%. Sun was out and Prairie Dogs were hiding. ;D

I started by firing 10 rounds of PMC X-Tac 5.56 to practice my fundamentals and warm up the gun.

Immediately following the fundamentals review, I fired 5 rounds from Group A at the center of the paper plate. Then I loaded the magazine with 5 rounds from Group B and fired them two ticks (approximately 2 inches) up from the center of the plate. It was when I examined the paper plate that I figured I probably should have fixed my zero before the test. [facepalm]

Results:
Group A may have produced slightly better results with 1 "flier", but it's impossible to say from this test if the extra effort at the reloading bench was worth it. More testing is necessary. :D [AR15]

Conclusion:
The results of this test are 100% dependent on my shooting abilities, which are mediocre at best. Maybe a better shooter with a better gun could have given more impressive results.






IMHO, if you want better than 1MOA accuracy from 55gr boolits, you need a slower twist. 55gr is at the ragged edge of stabilization for 1:7 short barrel.

[OtterbatHellcat]

Actually, most of you guys are way ahead of where we're at, at this point. We have notes placed on bullet holders of what stuff is, but it's not kept in a master log anywhere yet. Then again, we've only tested 3 calibers with only three powders, and three different projectile weights.

We still don't know wtf we're doing yet anyways. But, we are safe about it, and we measure everything.

[BuffCyclist]

Naps rule!
IMHO, if you want better than 1MOA accuracy from 55gr boolits, you need a slower twist. 55gr is at the ragged edge of stabilization for 1:7 short barrel.

I'm guessing you didn't mean to quote McJunior's post about naps...

[OtterbatHellcat]

Yo Brutal

[brutal]

Howdy fellers.

I've only had 6 cigarettes so far today, and that's really good for me. Prolly have 1 or 2 more before bed, but under 10 in roughly 18 hours would be outstanding for me. I'm proud of that, and I'll try for less tomorrow and on down that road.

It's all a giant mind fuck OBC. You can do it!

I quit 5 years ago Jan 5. Nearly 2-packs a day. My migraines have lessened significantly and are few, far between, and less severe.

[brutal]

I'm guessing you didn't mean to quote McJunior's post about naps...

Damn forum has been doing that to me all day. I should probably close and re-open the browser.

[mcjhr]

Always misquoted :(

[Ridge]

Y'all probably remember my car crash last June.

Today i noticed the glove box wasn't opening easily. It had serious drag until it was pulled down an inch or so. Took a closer look, one of the plastic hinges appears broken. The cap for the fuse box also seems to be very tight on the car. I'm concerned about the dashboard having shifted now. Going to swing by the shop that did the initial repairs tomorrow.

[HoneyBadger]

IMHO, if you want better than 1MOA accuracy from 55gr boolits, you need a slower twist. 55gr is at the ragged edge of stabilization for 1:7 short barrel.
Good to know. Thanks. Eventually I'll get a better gun, but this is what I have right now, and it's what I could afford. [Tooth]

[BuffCyclist]

That sucks Ridge, hope the car didn't shift/twist!

I had a fender bender in a parking lot once in my old Ford Escort. I was driving down a parking lot (lights were out and it was around 11pm) and some guy backed up FAST then slammed on his brakes in enough time to barely tap me. There was no visible damage, so we both shrugged it off and went our separate ways. When I got home, told my dad about it and he looked in the engine bay, found these little plastic clips all along the bumper to a cross brace were broken. Cost us about $20 to replace them and that was that.

[BuffCyclist]

Good to know. Thanks. Eventually I'll get a better gun, but this is what I have right now, and it's what I could afford. [Tooth]

I've got a dinged up 1:9 twist barrel on my M&P15 if ya wanna trade, and by dinged up I mean slightly cut into from when I dremeled off the old railed front gas block[LOL]

I want to upgrade my barrel to a 1:7 or 1:8, the 1:9 just barely stabilizes the 55grs, but I remember shooting 40gr "varmint" targeted bullets and man oh man, even at 200 yards, one ragged hole.

[TheBelly]

I've got a dinged up 1:9 twist barrel on my M&P15 if ya wanna trade, and by dinged up I mean slightly cut into from when I dremeled off the old railed front gas block[LOL]

I want to upgrade my barrel to a 1:7 or 1:8, the 1:9 just barely stabilizes the 55grs, but I remember shooting 40gr "varmint" targeted bullets and man oh man, even at 200 yards, one ragged hole.

I got into a golf ball shooting match with my boss today. The 1/8 twist 16" .223 can really get after it when it needs to. Golf balls. 200yards.

[Ridge]

That sucks Ridge, hope the car didn't shift/twist!

Yeah, me too. I'm concerned that the shop will even take it. They had trouble with keeping the bumper aligned with the fender after I got it back, and refused to admit it was their fault since I didn't get it back in to them before I scratched the paint, so they said they weren't responsible any more...

[Great-Kazoo]

IMHO, if you want better than 1MOA accuracy from 55gr boolits, you need a slower twist. 55gr is at the ragged edge of stabilization for 1:7 short barrel.

1:9 works well with 55gr. the best so far is 1:12 and 1:14. But that limits you to the lighter varmint bullets.

[HoneyBadger]

I got into a golf ball shooting match with my boss today. The 1/8 twist 16" .223 can really get after it when it needs to. Golf balls. 200yards.
That would be pretty sweet! What bullets/load were you using?

[BuffCyclist]

I got into a golf ball shooting match with my boss today. The 1/8 twist 16" .223 can really get after it when it needs to. Golf balls. 200yards.

NICE! We're you waiting for them to land or just shooting them right off the Tee's at the driving range? [LOL]

[HoneyBadger]

1:9 works well with 55gr. the best so far is 1:12 and 1:14. But that limits you to the lighter varmint bullets.
I like the flexibility of the 1:7. I don't ever plan on going lighter than 55gr, but having the option of going heavier is something I like.

[Great-Kazoo]

I like the flexibility of the 1:7. I don't ever plan on going lighter than 55gr, but having the option of going heavier is something I like.

Then utilize the low end of powder weight, especially with the groups you have now. I dropped down to 22.5 gr for my 55gr jsp, tightened up almost twice as much than using 23.5. One day they should all be on one target!

[BuffCyclist]

Excited to go explore a nearby reloading store tomorrow. Supposedly, they reload your brass while you wait and also sell their powders/primers and have quite a bit in stock.

I've spent the past hour or so compiling a huge list of powders that I can use for my calibers. Wanting to consolidate my pistol powders to use one for all, so I have a pretty big list of those. Same goes for 223/308, but thats not as big as the pistol.

Ideally, I'd like to buy 8lbs of a powder for rifle and for pistol and have that for a while. Would love to get 1lb of IMR 4064 for rifle, found a place online with 8lbs in stock at a good price, but I don't want to lock myself into it. Meh, may just take a chance if the local shop doesn't have anything to my liking.

[BuffCyclist]

Oh crap, the wife just asked me what she would do with and how she'd go about selling my firearms should anything happen to me, along with their associated costs. What's worse is that I taught her how to shoot.

[Sofa]

[mcjhr]

Oh crap, the wife just asked me what she would do with and how she'd go about selling my firearms should anything happen to me, along with their associated costs. What's worse is that I taught her how to shoot.

[Sofa]

Run.

[HoneyBadger]

Oh crap, the wife just asked me what she would do with and how she'd go about selling my firearms should anything happen to me, along with their associated costs. What's worse is that I taught her how to shoot.

[Sofa]
time to sleep with one eye open! [LOL]

[Great-Kazoo]

Oh crap, the wife just asked me what she would do with and how she'd go about selling my firearms should anything happen to me, along with their associated costs. What's worse is that I taught her how to shoot.

[Sofa]

As goofy as it sounds, you should take care of it. My toys ar ebroken down , who gets what, who gets NFA , reloading presses, components etc.

Weird i keep having this dream that a pillow is slowly but surely being pressed on to my face. Gotta be a dream, just can't figure out where these damn feathers are coming from.

[HoneyBadger]

Excited to go explore a nearby reloading store tomorrow. Supposedly, they reload your brass while you wait and also sell their powders/primers and have quite a bit in stock.

I've spent the past hour or so compiling a huge list of powders that I can use for my calibers. Wanting to consolidate my pistol powders to use one for all, so I have a pretty big list of those. Same goes for 223/308, but thats not as big as the pistol.

Ideally, I'd like to buy 8lbs of a powder for rifle and for pistol and have that for a while. Would love to get 1lb of IMR 4064 for rifle, found a place online with 8lbs in stock at a good price, but I don't want to lock myself into it. Meh, may just take a chance if the local shop doesn't have anything to my liking.
Unless you're reloading tons of 44mag or 50A&E, 8lbs of pistol powder should last you a LONG time.

[BuffCyclist]

Unless you're reloading tons of 44mag or 50A&E, 8lbs of pistol powder should last you a LONG time.

Well that much I know, but more so for rifle. If I'm loading 4 calibers with that 8lb jug, thats only 2lbs per caliber and while still a lot of powder, isn't as extreme as it seems.

[HoneyBadger]

I'm planning on building 9-12k 9mm rounds out of my 8lbs of powder. That's a lot. It'll take me a long time to shoot that much.

On the other hand, for 2.23, 2500 rounds would be a high estimate, which is not a lot.

[bogie]

I made sausage burgers for dinner. German yellow mustard and a fat slice of onion for food measure. Three sides included buttered peas, a spinach souffle and tater tots.

[Ridge]

time to sleep with one eye open! [LOL]

I've learned to sleep with both eyes open.








God, am I tired.

[mcjhr]

Pork chops, green beans, and over easy egg. Big glass of milk to wash it down.

[bogie]

8 lbs of pistol powder would have me set for quite a long time. What's yalls goto pistol powder if you just chose one? Bullseye seems to be a common powder for versatility.

[bogie]

This is off topic, but howdy doody hoz!

[Ridge]

Hot Pockets and Dr Pepper


I'm livin the dream.

[BuffCyclist]

I'm planning on building 9-12k 9mm rounds out of my 8lbs of powder. That's a lot. It'll take me a long time to shoot that much.

On the other hand, for 2.23, 2500 rounds would be a high estimate, which is not a lot.

Exactly. That's what I mean about 8lbs of pistol powder, if I could find a good across the board powder to use, would be ideal. Buy it once and have it for 3-5yrs. The problem then would be maintaining the bullet inventory.

And I've got another 1k 223 bullets ready to load, just need the powder. I have 1lb of powder I could use but was saving that for 308, which I'll get half as many bullets out of.

[BuffCyclist]

8 lbs of pistol powder would have me set for quite a long time. What's yalls goto pistol powder if you just chose one? Bullseye seems to be a common powder for versatility.

I really enjoy WST for 40 and that's all I've got. N340 for 9mm too but not really that impressed by it. A friend swears by Unique. True Blue, Blue Dot, 700X, 231, Clays, Universal, and a whole bunch of others are good for 9, 38spl, 40 and 45.

[bogie]

1:9 is already a pretty fast twist in 223. I'm not sure I'd go faster than 1:8 but I don't know enough about the compelling reasons to do so.

[BuffCyclist]

Why don't we have a Reloading Whores Thread?

That might be more applicable for a lot of this crap...

[bogie]

Why don't we have a Reloading Whores Thread?

That might be more applicable for a lot of this crap...

What did you do in reloading room might qualify, but those serious reloading guys would punt us if we whored too much.

[mcjhr]

Why don't we have a Reloading Whores Thread?

That might be more applicable for a lot of this crap...

I vote no, I like reading this stuff. Only coz I'm lazy to click shit all over.

[BuffCyclist]

What did you do in reloading room might qualify, but those serious reloading guys would punt us if we whored too much.

I don't mean the What did you do in the reloading room thread, I mean a different thread for us hos to congregate, talk about best powders, reloading tactics, etc.

Basically what we've hijacked this thread the past few weeks but in the right forum. [LOL]

[HoneyBadger]

8 lbs of pistol powder would have me set for quite a long time. What's yalls goto pistol powder if you just chose one? Bullseye seems to be a common powder for versatility.
I use clays, but I'm new at this game.

[mcjhr]

This is off topic, but howdy doody hoz!

Hi bro.

[mcjhr]

Hot Pockets and Dr Pepper


I'm livin the dream.

Ballin on a budget!

[bogie]

I don't mean the What did you do in the reloading room thread, I mean a different thread for us hos to congregate, talk about best powders, reloading tactics, etc.

Basically what we've hijacked this thread the past few weeks but in the right forum. [LOL]

Jims efforts to move us have been futile. Let's keep it up lol

[HoneyBadger]

Wait, this isn't the reloading forum?? [Dunno]

[bogie]

I really enjoy WST for 40 and that's all I've got. N340 for 9mm too but not really that impressed by it. A friend swears by Unique. True Blue, Blue Dot, 700X, 231, Clays, Universal, and a whole bunch of others are good for 9, 38spl, 40 and 45.


I use clays, but I'm new at this game.

Unique was the one I was thinking of.

[BuffCyclist]

Jims efforts to move us have been futile. Let's keep it up lol

Okay fine, don't go along with what I say.

Kazoo, I tried to move da hos, no luck.

[bogie]

Hi bro.

Stop derailing mcjunior! (Hi)

[bogie]

Ballin on a budget!

That's a good diet to permanently plug ones colon..

[BuffCyclist]

Just a quick reference for the rest of you reloadin' hos, between IMR Load Data website and my Lyman manual, I have access to load data for these pistol powders for 9mm, 38spl, 40s&w, 45acp:

231 - ALL
700-X - ALL
AutoComp - ALL
Blue Dot - ALL
Bullseye - ALL
CFE Pistol - ALL
Clays - ALL
HP-38 - ALL
HS-6 - ALL
Longshot - 9,40,45
PB - ALL
Power Pistol - ALL
SR 4756 - ALL
SR 7625 - ALL
TiteGroup - ALL
True Blue - ALL
Unique - ALL
Universal - ALL
WSF - 9,40,45
WST - 38,40,45


That isn't to say there isn't more out there that work among the 4 main calibers, but this is my list of powders to look for tomorrow.

eta: I might add that the loads I'm referring to are for 115gr 9mm, 158gr 38spl, 180gr .40s&w, and 230gr 45acp. Though I should probably change the 9mm to 124gr so I can have two bullets to choose from, like 165/180 for 40s&w.

[bogie]

Just a quick reference for the rest of you reloadin' hos, between IMR Load Data website and my Lyman manual, I have access to load data for these pistol powders for 9mm, 38spl, 40s&w, 45acp:

231 - ALL
700-X - ALL
AutoComp - ALL
Blue Dot - ALL
Bullseye - ALL
CFE Pistol - ALL
Clays - ALL
HP-38 - ALL
HS-6 - ALL
Longshot - 9,40,45
PB - ALL
Power Pistol - ALL
SR 4756 - ALL
SR 7625 - ALL
TiteGroup - ALL
True Blue - ALL
Unique - ALL
Universal - ALL
WSF - 9,40,45
WST - 38,40,45


That isn't to say there isn't more out there that work among the 4 main calibers, but this is my list of powders to look for tomorrow.

BC, Could you ad 38 +p and 357 to that list?

[Great-Kazoo]

I've learned to sleep with both eyes open.








God, am I tired.

Stay out of jail.[Beer]

[BuffCyclist]

And on that note hos, I need to call it a night. Going to have a long day tomorrow.

[Wiggle]

[Great-Kazoo]

Jims efforts to move us have been futile. Let's keep it up lol

yeah it's pretty hard to locate any forum on the board. I doubt most could hold their own in the reloading forum[LOL]

[bogie]

And on that note hos, I need to call it a night. Going to have a long day tomorrow.

[Wiggle]

Nite ho! Happy reloading

[BuffCyclist]

BC, Could you ad 38 +p and 357 to that list?

Probably, but I'm not interested in those calibers so I haven't compiled the data. If you want I can run through it tomorrow evening from my Lyman Manual (49th Edition) and the IMR Load Data website to add extra. Wouldn't be comprehensive but its enough to get ya started.

[BuffCyclist]

yeah it's pretty hard to locate any forum on the board. I doubt most could hold their own in the reloading forum[LOL]

I can hold my own, TONS of theoretical knowledge but still pretty green as I've been doing it almost a year. I've definitely come a long ways though just don't have the experience that some of the older members have.

[mcjhr]

I need to reload. Why? Coz the cool guys talk about it....

[Great-Kazoo]

I can hold my own, TONS of theoretical knowledge but still pretty green as I've been doing it almost a year. I've definitely come a long ways though just don't have the experience that some of the older members have.

Everyone would benefit from the RL forum as there's more input / viewing for it there, than here. Not sure why some folks are hesitant to utilize that section. Your post count still goes up.

[mcjhr]

don't let me start getting addicted to something else.

Also women are irritatingly irrational.

[HoneyBadger]

I'm mostly just looking to chit chat. If I really needed reloading advice, I'd go to the reloading forum. But this is the PWT, where anything can happen and the points don't matter. [LOL]

[bogie]

I'm out too. Later gators

[mcjhr]

Surprised to see the "weird ejection marks" thread.....that could go a few different ways.

[TheBelly]

That would be pretty sweet! What bullets/load were you using?

LC brass

23.6gr TAC

75gr Hornady bthp

Winchester primers.

[mcjhr]

I'm out too. Later gators

Peas out.

[Great-Kazoo]

Surprised to see the "weird ejection marks" thread.....that could go a few different ways.

it happens and input is always helpful.

[Great-Kazoo]

I'm mostly just looking to chit chat. If I really needed reloading advice, I'd go to the reloading forum. But this is the PWT, where anything can happen and the points don't matter. [LOL]

I'd respond but then i'd have an even number for post.

[TheBelly]

NICE! We're you waiting for them to land or just shooting them right off the Tee's at the driving range? [LOL]

We were hitting them out there with a 7 iron. When they stopped moving, we shot at them. It's hard to UKD a target as small as a golf ball.

[waxthis]

Everyone would benefit from the RL forum as there's more input / viewing for it there, than here. Not sure why some folks are hesitant to utilize that section. Your post count still goes up.

Yeah you freaks....Get the hell out of here!

[mcjhr]

I just wanna ho.

[TheBelly]

Hot Pockets and Dr Pepper


I'm livin the dream.


sTR8 Medium Pimpin!!!

you will need something to dislodge all that later.

[BuffCyclist]

I just wanna ho.

You just want a ho?

You tried Colfax?

[LOL]

[hghclsswhitetrsh]

Hey hoes.

[mcjhr]

No Ho. Im saving for guns, ammo and tools

[Great-Kazoo]

Yeah you freaks....Get the hell out of here!

Don't you have some indian to eat? taking bets on the 3:15 train

[mcjhr]

Don't you have some indian to eat? taking bets on the 3:15 train

Hubba hubba hubba hubba hubba!

[OtterbatHellcat]

I'm not entirely sure that the reloading forum really wants to be invaded by the Island of Misfits either.

[brutal]

BC, Could you ad 38 +p and 357 to that list?

add .357SIG

add W748

[hghclsswhitetrsh]

Man, what's a brotha gotta do to get a 'hey' back?

[Great-Kazoo]

Man, what's a brotha gotta do to get a 'hey' back?

HEY, BACK

[hghclsswhitetrsh]

Thanks kazoooo.

[brutal]

LC brass

23.6gr TAC

75gr Hornady bthp

Winchester primers.

oh hell yea.

I have some 75 and 77 gr boolits I need to load up after I get a scope mounted to one of the AR's. Alas, all my 5.56 barrels somehow ended up 1:7 so as Jim says, if I want moderately accurate 55gr plinking loads I'll just load em low. I need to work up a subsonic round too - I know Jim had posted some data on that a while back. Probably have to search through that dang reloading forum everyone keeps talking about.

Been trying to buy 62gr M855 instead of M193 this past year for the factory stuff. I should pick up some M855 bullets.

[OtterbatHellcat]

Yo HC

[hghclsswhitetrsh]

Hey obc. How's it going?

[mcjhr]

Man, what's a brotha gotta do to get a 'hey' back?

Hay is for horses ;)

[mcjhr]

BC, dang man go easy on them knees! You need a knees eze(real product).

[hghclsswhitetrsh]

What's a gay horse eat?



Haaaaaaaaaaay...

[OtterbatHellcat]

Hey obc. How's it going?

Getting by, brother....hope sheets good on your end of the hood.

Damn clock is against me lately though, did get some keys run backwards and all, should be set for lesson tomorrow. Bedtime soon.

[hghclsswhitetrsh]

Good to hear obc. Keep up the good fight. Ttyl

[mcjhr]

OBC, nice job on the cancer sticks! I've quit those twice in my life....not easy. Unfortunately now I chew it instead if smoke it.....